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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:35 pm
(May 1, 2013 at 5:27 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Either there is Creator or not. If there isn't then our life somehow manifested itself, which goes against law of cause and effect. Nothing can happen by itself, spontaneously, everything has a reason.
So where did God come from? Who or what created it?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:36 pm
(May 1, 2013 at 5:27 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: If there isn't then our life somehow manifested itself, which goes against law of cause and effect. Nothing can happen by itself, spontaneously, everything has a reason.
Uhh...stuff happens spontaneously all the time. Case in point: I release an object, it falls spontaneously. I bring water into a sufficiently cold environment, it spontaneously freezes. Now, if you mean ex nihilo you might at least have somewhat of an argument, but from preexisting matter, no. Radioactive decay is also spontaneous.
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:37 pm
Life manifesting from unlife is not a breach of cause and effect. If abiogenesis is correct, then something must have caused proteins and amino acids to become self-replicating organisms. Not a single proponent of the theory would ever suggest that it happened without a cause.
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:37 pm
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(May 1, 2013 at 5:35 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So where did God come from? Who or what created it?
Special pleading in 3...
(May 1, 2013 at 5:37 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Life manifesting from unlife is not a breach of cause and effect. If abiogenesis is correct, then something must have caused proteins and amino acids to become self-replicating organisms. Not a single proponent of the theory would ever suggest that it happened without a cause.
Indeed. Some thing, it does not have to be some one. ...just preemptively answering his objection.
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Quote:Nothing can happen by itself, spontaneously, everything has a reason.
I take it that you have never accompanied a woman buying shoes.
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May 1, 2013 at 6:00 pm
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Cheers Min... so many flashbacks...
[reaches shakily for the meds]
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Quote:Nothing can happen by itself, spontaneously, everything has a reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUYw59ztyw
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 6:04 pm
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(May 1, 2013 at 2:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Go to any church and tell them you are putting "faith" in jesus in the collection plate.
See how fast they throw your ass out.
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Money seems to have a way of bringing the realist out of even the most sentimental and naive people of the world.
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 2, 2013 at 5:31 am
(May 1, 2013 at 5:35 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (May 1, 2013 at 5:27 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Either there is Creator or not. If there isn't then our life somehow manifested itself, which goes against law of cause and effect. Nothing can happen by itself, spontaneously, everything has a reason.
So where did God come from? Who or what created it?
If God is created by someone then this something is God. And we can continue this endlessly. That's why it being said in Vedas that God is cause of himself, only Supreme Lord, Godhead breaks rule of cause and effect. Its paradox. Infinity vs selfcause.
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 2, 2013 at 7:02 am
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Money has the value people give it.
eg. I want to sell a car. You want to give me some paper in exchange for the car. I refuse your paper, because I see no value in it.... I cannot use the paper to acquire other things because no one else sees any value in it.
But if sufficient people attribute value to that paper, then it becomes valuable and, given enough such papers, may be worth a car.
Nowadays, paper money has the worth that governments attribute to it... and people living under those governments automatically attribute the same value.
However, there are some people who view the government's attribution of value to paper money as abusive, misleading, false... leading to lack of faith in the monetary system. Paper money loses worth... but we still need to trade, we need a replacement, since we are aware that direct trade is not feasible... some are heralding the good properties of the Bitcoin system... perhaps it's not perfect, perhaps we'll end up settling for something else.... but I see more and more businesses accepting Bitcoins. Bitcoins are gaining in worth, in value, as more and more people accept them as currency.
There are natural self-replicating non-organic mineral structures that we know of.... we call them crystals.
Would it be a stretch of the imagination, if those crystals happened to lend a hand in the abiogenesis process?
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