Killing Israelis accords with international law

[Dragonetti]

I worry about American hypocrisy, mainly. We are trying to figure out a way to punish Syria for using chemical weapons.

Meanwhile, we conveniently forget that we dumped upwards of 20 million gallons of Agent Orange on SE Asia and depleted uranium slugs all over Iraq.

And we remain the only nation to use atomic weapons in war.

That is hardly an interesting amount, barely above the noise, compared to the bombs we dropped on civilians in WWII.

True fact: some ten times more French citizens died in being liberated in 1944 than is being conquered in 1940.

Second true fact, 96% of all Americans in WWII were drafted.

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Corruption of power is absolute.

I was 110% in support if the first Gulf War lead by his father for a lot of good reasons. I am not a pacifist or anti-war in any sense. I only hold that if we are going to ask people to die it should be for a very good reason.

I also hold the US MURDERED an unknown number of thousands of Iraqi soldiers who were defending their country from foreign invasion.

Murder is murder. You do not get to call it anything else without rational justification.

The problems after deposed Saddam was the fumbling of the Iraqi Military. The retards in charge did not follow the military leaders advice.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

I was 110% in support if the first Gulf War lead by his father for a lot of good reasons. I am not a pacifist or anti-war in any sense. I only hold that if we are going to ask people to die it should be for a very good reason.

I also hold the US MURDERED an unknown number of thousands of Iraqi soldiers who were defending their country from foreign invasion.

Murder is murder. You do not get to call it anything else without rational justification.

The problems after deposed Saddam was the fumbling of the Iraqi Military. The retards in charge did not follow the military leaders advice.

My position HW Bush was that he was told to get out of Kuwait by the UN as he refused. It also had near total support of nations around Iraq who not just supported it but paid for it.

So was not just the crazy UN but also everyone around Iraq.

The W Bush second Gulf war was his own piece of shit. The only material thing it accomplished was helping Iran which I predicted.

[Dragonetti]

The problems after deposed Saddam was the fumbling of the Iraqi Military. The retards in charge did not follow the military leaders advice.

My position HW Bush was that he was told to get out of Kuwait by the UN as he refused. It also had near total support of nations around Iraq who not just supported it but paid for it.

So was not just the crazy UN but also everyone around Iraq.

The W Bush second Gulf war was his own piece of shit. The only material thing it accomplished was helping Iran which I predicted.

Correct the reason we went in to Iraq are shitty. I will not argue with that! But, he was a puppet for that war. The main perpetrators for the war was Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz. They were both part of the first Gulf war, and they wanted to depose Saddam initially. Again, they did not listen to their top Military Adviser: General Shenseki. He told congress, we need a larger force, and it would not be advisable to invade Iraq.

[Cato]

My boat pulled into Haifa once, does that make us all Izziehuggers?

There are many ways rednecks are izziehuggers. I do not consider going to port a necessary and sufficient sign that you are a redneck.
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Redneck? Your adjective of choice. Am too bold to ask for evidence?

[KichigaiNeko]

Hmmm one way to stop the petty in fighting

[Dragonetti]

Hmmm one way to stop the petty in fighting

I wished it was that easy, but it is not! They have spread outside the middle east.

[KichigaiNeko]

I have nothing against the people per se but I do feel that IF there was no "holy fucking land to quibble over they just might get on with their lives.....


Yeah yeah, I know I'm a stupid ignorant optimist.


Back to reality then.......

[A_Nony_Mouse]

The problems after deposed Saddam was the fumbling of the Iraqi Military. The retards in charge did not follow the military leaders advice.

Excuse me. I missed a point. The problem was the US disbanded the Iraqi army. That eliminated the only group which could have kept the peace. That put a few hundred thousand trained military on the street with no source of income and with families to feed. That is what went wrong.

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My position HW Bush was that he was told to get out of Kuwait by the UN as he refused. It also had near total support of nations around Iraq who not just supported it but paid for it.

So was not just the crazy UN but also everyone around Iraq.

The W Bush second Gulf war was his own piece of shit. The only material thing it accomplished was helping Iran which I predicted.

Correct the reason we went in to Iraq are shitty. I will not argue with that! But, he was a puppet for that war. The main perpetrators for the war was Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz. They were both part of the first Gulf war, and they wanted to depose Saddam initially. Again, they did not listen to their top Military Adviser: General Shenseki. He told congress, we need a larger force, and it would not be advisable to invade Iraq.

Puppet? The buck stops there. Hitler learned that. Plus W knew exactly what he was doing. I carefully listened to what he said. If he were hauled into court for his war crimes he could truth fully say he never accused Iraq of having any WMDs or any other justification for the war.

What I listened to were what we came to call bushisms. Every time he might have said something justifying the war he screwed up the grammar so he did not actually say it. In prepared speeches and press conferences with otherwise perfect grammar these were the only statements where the grammar was wrong and he could swear truthfully he never said such things.

Let me modify that a bit. I think I remember one time he screwed up his own ungrammatical statements and did get the grammar right. A mistake of getting it right and carefully planned non-statements.

This was not knew. The infamous Colin Powell in his UN speech did almost the same thing except he kept his grammar correct. He talked about anthrax. He talked about Hussein. He never said Hussein had anthrax. Same with poison gas and nuclear weapons. He never really said Iraq had any of them. Yet instantly the US coverage said that he had.

And people wonder why the Nazi Germany press went along with it. The US media did not need a Goebbels to do exactly the same thing. Seeing how the US media did the same thing on its own I can make a strong case Goebbels got a bum rap.

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My boat pulled into Haifa once, does that make us all Izziehuggers?

There are many ways rednecks are izziehuggers. I do not consider going to port a necessary and sufficient sign that you are a redneck.

Redneck? Your adjective of choice. Am too bold to ask for evidence?
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The use of the term redneck in the US is often used to refer to the born again bible thumpers. We have some 50+ million of them. They are the primary political support for Israel for whom I invented the term izziehugger. Therefore I at times refer to the supporters of Israel as rednecks.

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Hmmm one way to stop the petty in fighting

And for me I say the best thing to do is let them kill themselves if they want to do so. The only vital American interest in the middle east is the free flow of oil at fair market prices. Beyond that, nada, zip, zilch.

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Hmmm one way to stop the petty in fighting

I wished it was that easy, but it is not! They have spread outside the middle east.

There has never been any reluctance on the part of the terrorists to say why they originally spread beyond their own countries, the US support of Israel against the Palestinians, except for bin Laden who added, US troops in Saudi who did leave in 2004. Mission Accomplished for bin Laden.

Only after the US and W started wars in the middle east did the so-called terrorists start adding AND the US killing innocent people in the Middle East.

Anyone who buys into "they hate our freedom" is an idiot.

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I have nothing against the people per se but I do feel that IF there was no "holy fucking land to quibble over they just might get on with their lives.....

Yeah yeah, I know I'm a stupid ignorant optimist.

Back to reality then.......

There were two breaks in the peace in Palestine since 800 AD or so. The Europeans doing their crusades and Europeans doing their zionist thing. Notice the common thread?