Will we witness the transition from a type 0 to a type I civilization in 100 years?

[Mystical]

I don't think religious tolerance or political transcendence or will get us out of where we're at. Technological application and space exploration will, since that's the only way to break the economic status quo. As always, in the end, the competitive search of currency moves us forward in all aspects of society. That's just my opinion.

[p90powa]

I don't think religious tolerance or political transcendence or will get us out of where we're at. Technological application and space exploration will, since that's the only way to break the economic status quo. As always, in the end, the competitive search of currency moves us forward in all aspects of society. That's just my opinion.

Very true. Although I think a little tolerance certainly won't hurt in countries where it is illegal to be atheist.

[Sal]

Doubt it. We need more funding to science and more and better educated populace in the sciences to reach it within 100 years. Maybe we will make it in 150 years, if ever.

I don't know how much effect religion has on science, but the day Intelligent Design/Creationism is taught alongside biology will be the day that a great "brain-drain" will start, unless people react against such a legislation.

I think that after the effects of Global Warming (as if we aren't already) are really starting to be felt, we're gonna get our act together - but I fear that by that time, it will probably be too late to reverse the effects of burnt fossil fuels, and increase in carbon-dioxide within any meaningful time-frame. We need to stop power plants based on coal altogether, and switch completely to nuclear and slash our energy usage, for the time being, and instead use it a lot more efficiently. We also need to stop burning oil, and only use it for petrochemical products instead (plastics and whatnot), oil has so many uses and we're wasting it away by turning it into carbon-dioxide and water, I mean, WTF? We need to lift the developing nations up out of the scientific gutter, and we can start that by removing stuff like EPZs, they're having such a damaging effect on the economy in developing nations, instead if they could produce goods on their own terms, we could let them educate themselves in the sciences. There are loads of other stop-gaps I can think of, but these stuck out for me.

[Mystical]

Well, advocate for the Tessla car that Min talks of, that's a start
P90x: I think the farther we go with technological advance, the more religion will fade. It is sad that science is waged upon so vehemently by theism, it truly is.

[p90powa]

Well, advocate for the Tessla car that Min talks of, that's a start
P90x: I think the farther we go with technological advance, the more religion will fade. It is sad that science is waged upon so vehemently by theism, it truly is.

GAAHHAHAHAH it's not p90x! It's the gun. FN P90. Long story short, I made this name a longggg time ago for a game that had the p90 in it. So I made the account, but then at the very last moment I bought another gun, however the name stuck, as my friends called me it, so I use this name on forums and games and everywhere else.

[Mystical]

Well, you'll always be p90x to me

[That guy who asked questions]

I would say that it depends. My friends and I have realized the way to develop humanity into this civilization but the problem is the fact that terrorism and suppression of knowledge are the main hindrances to the formation of this civilization and the cause of this seems to be mainstream religion. For example, Christianity is completely against the idea of a planetary civilization, (The New World Order) because they fear the anti-christ will emerge from this and thus the end of the world will draw near. I think the first step to a type 1 civilization is the education of the next generation, the more people that learn scientific facts rather than religious myths will be more open to making a difference and less fearful of a world civilization. 100 years? Maybe. Depends on how hard we all work for it. Interesting post.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

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You are lucky to live in a portion of the world which had equally grisly religious warfare centuries ago and the wounds have largely healed. Much of the rest of the world is not so fortunate.

Fortunately this "much of the rest of the world", even if we were to include the US, is responsible for significantly less than half of the world's economic productivity.

For progressing to next level of civilization it is not the head count that makes a part of the world significant. It is productive capacity and command of resources.

Even amongst the parts of the world retarded by religion, most religions don't much threaten areas outside of its own traditional shit hole. It is only evengelizing religions like Islam, and above all christianity, that directly threaten not only its own traditional shit hole, but seek to expand its baleful shadow to smother wherever human progress may that may be found.

This sounds like a completely pointless post to actually write on here, but I foudn it interesting.

Not sure how many people have played Mass Effect, or even read all the codex entries on the various games, but in the first one there is a codex about the economy and political structure of Earth.

In the game the Earth of ME has a de facto split between the advanced nations and those that are poor and destitute (they list Africa and the Middle East if I remember correctly as natural resources on the earth became redundant).

I think this idea in the game lends weight to your thesis; if the overall output is high, even if that's localised in specific areas, then really, one can bypass all the economies who are not only less advanced, but refuse to become more advanced

I recently watched a BBC articles here about the economies of Africa that are beginning to develop in the 21st century. Ethiopia is one the worlds fastest growing economies today thanks for inward investment from its own government and from foreign aid. IT is beginning to move from subsitance farming to commerical production, going through its own effective industrial revolution. It even has a commodoies stock exchange now!

A stock exchange, in a country where in the past few decades millions have been effected by serious drought, famine and corruption. Naturally, Etheopia still has some massive problem s(mainly political and economic corruption), but it's evidence that change is beginning.

[Mystical]

[Walking Void]

One does not simply argue religion and win, unfortunately. We have to wait for the life-force of religion to die out.

If religious people are still being raised within the next 100 years, then shit.