Definition of and evidence for the holocaust

[popeyespappy]

I a straw man the best your can Mouse?

[Jackalope]

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If everyone who confessed to a crime were convicted upon mere admission the more heinous the crime the more people would be convicted.

you can't find any confession because there was no one single person who killed all 6 million it were a bunch a fellas.....stupid nazi


who is your nazi boss im guessing..... matt giwer???

Are you overlooking the possibility that he *is* Matt Giwer?

[A_Nony_Mouse]

I guess there's this: Criticism of Holocaust denial

Nazi documentation

The Nazis used figures of between 9 and 11 million for the Jewish population of Europe, as evidenced in the notes of the Wannsee Conference. In fact, the Nazis methodically recorded the ongoing reduction of the Jewish population, as in the Korherr Report, which gave the status of the Final Solution through December, 1942. The Höfle Telegram was sent by SS-Sturmbannführer Hermann Höfle on January 11, 1943 to SS-Obersturmbannführer Adolf Eichmann in Berlin and detailed the number of deaths of Jews in the concentration camps.[55] In the year 1942 alone, the telegram lists 1,274,166 Jews were exterminated[55] in the four camps of Aktion Reinhard. The Korherr Report compiled by an SS statistician, gave a conservative total of 2,454,000 Jews deported to extermination camps or killed by the Einsatzgruppen. The complete status reports of the Einsatzgruppen death squads were found in the archives of the Gestapo when it was searched by the U.S. Army, and the accuracy attested to by the former Einsatzgruppen members who testified during war crime trials and at other times. These reports alone list an additional 1,500,000 or so murders during mass shootings, the vast majority of these victims were Jews. Further, surviving Nazi documentation spells out their plans to murder the Jews of Europe (see the Wannsee Conference), recorded the trains arriving at various death camps, and included photographs and films of many atrocities.

Letter and 14 day report year-end report

Camp i.d. to 31.12.1942 1942 total
L ? Lublin 12761 24733
B ? Belzec 0 434508
S ? Sobibor 515 101370
T ? Treblinka 10335 713555 (*)
total: 23611 1274166

(*) note - the original reads 71355, but this is probably a typo as 713555 gives the correct total.

These things always get amusing. They are sort of quality puzzles.

The "rest missed" indicates this is some sort of radio intercept not a captured document. My German is rusty but no place do I see Jews or dead. I do see sent to camps. I would presume what I do not see is what is critical to your six million.

There is no claim Reinhardt groups worked in the camps and claims are exterminated in camps and of the four only Treblinka is accused of being an extermination camp for some reason so the others make no sense.

Yes, people were removed from the reclaimed Germany and sent to camps in the General Government of Poland which was the pre-WWI Poland. That is not in question.

[Silver]

Are you overlooking the possibility that he *is* Matt Giwer?

Surprisingly, they do have the same avatar:

https://www.facebook.com/mgiwer

[A_Nony_Mouse]

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If everyone who confessed to a crime were convicted upon mere admission the more heinous the crime the more people would be convicted.

you can't find any confession because there was no one single person who killed all 6 million it were a bunch a fellas.....stupid nazi

Which is of course another reason why I was curious anyone would bring up a confession. But you have yet to establish there were six million missing after the war so whining about that number is meaningless.

The Nazis tried to destroy communism. Give them credit for doing something right.

[quote who is your nazi boss im guessing..... matt giwer???
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Did no one tell you I be he? All this time and you did not know? Pay attention.

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I a straw man the best your can Mouse?

I prefer to stick with an absolute requirement for physical evidence.

No one here has established the validity of the number or the cause of death. There is not enough to get an indictment in the US legal system. I assume the British system would not indict either without the essentials which are still not in evidence.

[catfish]

You want British courts? French courts? Fine with me. What I will not accept is a Stalinist court which was the mold of much of the IMT. I did not think you would either. I simply guessed you were American or British and thus the standards of justice are about the same.

What is new about my description of the necessary content of an allocution? Pardon but I was not aware of any other kind of content required in any real court in any non-communist country.

I have no idea what you mean by not thinking it through.

If everyone who confessed to a crime were convicted upon mere admission the more heinous the crime the more people would be convicted. That is just the way it is. That is why there must be an allocution that is complete and acceptable to both the prosecution and the court.

Why would you want it otherwise?

Did you really think there was a single confession to Darkstar's number? I'd love to read that one.

Seriously man, what definition of "allocution" are you using? Are you using an adult dictionary?

I'm not arguing any numbers or even any type of evidence, I'm merely coaxing you to pinpoint an "acceptable" source (for you of course).
You agreed to US court standards and according to US court standards, a confession counts.

Like I said, you didn't think this through.

(I really want to know what you think "allocution" means)

[A_Nony_Mouse]

you can't find any confession because there was no one single person who killed all 6 million it were a bunch a fellas.....stupid nazi


who is your nazi boss im guessing..... matt giwer???

Are you overlooking the possibility that he *is* Matt Giwer?

The Thee himself!

I thought everyone knew. It was never a secret.

[catfish]

No one here has established the validity of the number or the cause of death. There is not enough to get an indictment in the US legal system. I assume the British system would not indict either without the essentials which are still not in evidence.

And now you get the correct term? WTF?

You must need a nap or something...

[A_Nony_Mouse]

You want British courts? French courts? Fine with me. What I will not accept is a Stalinist court which was the mold of much of the IMT. I did not think you would either. I simply guessed you were American or British and thus the standards of justice are about the same.

What is new about my description of the necessary content of an allocution? Pardon but I was not aware of any other kind of content required in any real court in any non-communist country.

I have no idea what you mean by not thinking it through.

If everyone who confessed to a crime were convicted upon mere admission the more heinous the crime the more people would be convicted. That is just the way it is. That is why there must be an allocution that is complete and acceptable to both the prosecution and the court.

Why would you want it otherwise?

Did you really think there was a single confession to Darkstar's number? I'd love to read that one.

Seriously man, what definition of "allocution" are you using? Are you using an adult dictionary?

I'm not arguing any numbers or even any type of evidence, I'm merely coaxing you to pinpoint an "acceptable" source (for you of course).
You agreed to US court standards and according to US court standards, a confession counts.

Like I said, you didn't think this through.

(I really want to know what you think "allocution" means)

The point is a mere confession is insufficient in any court since the witch trials in the west and Stalin in the east. The person confessing has to provide sufficient detail to demonstrate he is not some attention seeking crank but rather the real perp. A confession does NOT count all by itself. Never has.

To the point if you wish I have read several things which people have claimed to be confessions but which do not rise the level acceptable in court. Post one and I will show you. Post it COMPLETELY not edited to just the credible parts.

[Jackalope]

Are you overlooking the possibility that he *is* Matt Giwer?

The Thee himself!

I thought everyone knew. It was never a secret.

It's pretty obvious.

BTW, for those not in the know, Google his name for some yuks.