Definition of and evidence for the holocaust

[Jackalope]

Sorry, I think I'll pass. There's only so much time in one's life that one has to be choosy about what one spends time on. Frankly, your reputation precedes you.

That is a VERY VERY LAME excuse for not posting any physical evidence for your belief in the holy holocaust.

Is it? I'm not aware that I've taken a position publicly on the matter.

In fact, in this thread, I can't recall taking any position on anything, except perhaps to imply that it's my opinion that you're a crank, a kook, and a self-important windbag (*). Yep, there's one of them there ad hominems - or it would be, were I forming an argument, which I am not, in which case it's nothing more than a garden-variety insult.

(*) Anyone who cares to look into the matter themselves is invited to Google this crank's name and form your own opinion.

[cratehorus]

And no one has ever heard of you. No one even cares enough to dislike you. You'll be forgotten two minutes after you are dead. I have people around the world lining up to hate me. You don't have jack. Why do you continue to live with yourself when all you have is a life that seeks only the approval of others for self-worth?

you've got the wrong person with that comment

What is your hang up with that link?

if you post on that site, except as a prank, you should be shot

It is merely comparing the script of Phoenician and the supposed ancient Hebrew. Very few people have adjusted to the fact that once Exodus and the Joshua conquest are identified by the BS meter the idea of any separate group of hillbillies goes away and they are all Palestinians.

blah blah blah

And Palestinians had traveling scribes who used Phoenician. It is hardly a surprise once the religious crap is taken away.

do you have a point or is this just collective racism quite fascinating the convos you racists get into when you get passed the moot blatant hatred

What pretend? Ever since I got curly hairs. Learn something with the Made in Alexandria in my sig.

no i don't read white supremacist propaganda why should i?

Speaking of atheism why is it you appear to have such an interest in a religion? It is no different than the Druids.

what's the obsession with the druids there still are druids? there "neo-druids" same way your a neo nazi a new version of a dead lifestyle

But you appear to care so much about it disappearance or not or its welfare or whatever. Sure people die. How do you think religions go extinct? What would it matter in the least? Islam, Judaism, Christianity, end them all.

supremacy is wrong, both ways, favoring one religion over then next

[Minimalist]

There were more dead there than at Auschwitz.

Are you suggesting that they were all suicides?

[cneron]

What a disgusting thread.

My evidence for the Holocaust depends on the thousands of photos and documentary films that exist and the thousands of eye witnesses which include the victims, the perpetrators and the liberators, some of whom are still living to tell the tale. I've known several camp survivors and WWII veterans (including my father and uncle) who served in Europe and confirmed the atrocities, but I've never talked to any that say it didn't happen. You discount out of hand any evidence you don't happen to like, so there's no real point in arguing it, except to say this: placing the Holocaust on the same level as the existence of God or alien abduction is ridiculous. One is supernatural, the other is scientifically and statistically unlikely; in other words, they're both highly improbable. Unfortunately, heinous behavior on the behalf of vicious scumbags like the Nazis isn't improbable at all. Your analogy doesn't hold up.

It's like my saying Mount Everest doesn't exist because I've never personally seen it. But I've seen pictures and read accounts of it, and have personally seen other mountains, and logic dictates that one of them must be the tallest. You didn't witness the Holocaust, but logic dictates that like the tallest mountains, there are also pinnacles of human depravity.

And while you try to push buttons by saying believers in the Holocaust are akin to believers in God and that denial is more in keeping with atheism, you've got it precisely backward. There's plenty of evidence for the Holocaust, just as there's plenty of evidence for a Universe without design. Denying the facts because they don't happen to suit your prejudices is a theist trait.

With historical revisionism like this going on---within the lifespans of those who were actually there---it's hardly surprising that Bush 2 got away with saying that the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with WMD only a few days after he said it did, or that a washed-up athlete can flee from the law on live television after virtually hacking off his ex-wife's head and be found Not Guilty of murder, or that politically-motivated cretins can deny physical phenomenon as fundamental as the Greenhouse Effect while the east coast is submerged in water and the west bursts into flame. This kind of thinking adds to the sum total of sorrow and pain in the world, and taken far enough, endangers lives.

[LastPoet]

(*) Anyone who cares to look into the matter themselves is invited to Google this crank's name and form your own opinion.

No further comment is needed

[festive1]

A good friend of mine's father was in a forced labor camp in Germany during WWII. They aren't Jewish. I've seen his tattoo, though I haven't inquired as to why he was sent to the work camp, but I believe him.
Denying the Holocaust is total bullshit. Do you deny other genocides, such as the Rowandan genocide or the Bosnian genocide?
Where's The Germans Are Coming when you need him?

[A Theist]

A_Nony_Mouse is an obvious troll who more than likely spends too much of his free time on neonazi chat sites...his brain has turned to silly putty...he's going to reject any and all evidence of the holocaust of six million Jews anyway...so what's the point in entertaining this Jew hating neonazi bigot any longer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

[Tonus]

Is this one of those "carefully-worded" thingies? Where you say "prove the holocaust, defined as the execution of six million Jews by the Nazis in the 30s and 40s" and if it turns out to be three million or four million or three-hundred thousand, then there was no holocaust because the number is incorrect? Or is it "there was no holocaust, some Jews just got unlucky" or somewhere in between?

If I am remembering correctly, some holocaust deniers focus on the number of dead and produce much lower numbers or at least dispute the six million dead claim. By focusing on the numbers, they can divert attention from their belief that it didn't happen without explicitly saying so. So what I am wondering is, is this topic borne of the belief that the claim of six million cannot be verified, or is it borne of the belief that there was no attempt at a mass-extermination of Jews by the Nazis in the 30s and 40s?

[A Theist]

Hmmmm...this is interesting...if we're actually dealing with matt giwer...I know from other threads that mr. Jew hating mouse doesn't like to answer direct questions...Was there a Holocaust of six million Jews by the nazis mr. mouse, or not...Was halten Sie?...

Afraid to answer direct questions

[downbeatplumb]

I had a next door neighbour was a jew who was rescued from Auchwitz.....will that do.

I saw the tatoo and the haunted look she always had.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRCeCiF3BU