Definition of and evidence for the holocaust

[A_Nony_Mouse]

The guys who forged all that material and phoned my son and threatened to kill him. You sure hang out in strange company.

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...Did you ever get around to answering those questions? Nobody here will phone you or your son and threaten to kill anybody if you decide you want to answer them...can you answer them?

Yeah well, you're the one who gets cited on stormfront...you sure have a strange following. nazi bigots...
Stormfront

Is there any reason to entertain this this Jew hating nazi bigot troll any longer?

Are you going to ban everyone whose academic writings on the written languages of ancient Palestine-Syria gets cited by Stormfront? You certainly attack with a broad brush. So broad you look like an idiot.

[Jackalope]

[Are you going to ban everyone whose academic writings on the written languages of ancient Palestine-Syria gets cited by Stormfront? You certainly attack with a broad brush. So broad you look like an idiot.

I doubt it, as he lacks the power to ban anyone.

If you were going to get banned, it certainly wouldn't be because you're a screaming neo-nazi cockroach.

[Rev. Rye]

Here's a little something; It's called the Posen speech. It was a speech given by Heinrich Himmler to SS officers on 4 October 1943. At one point, he explicitly talks about the extermination (Ausrottung) of the Jews.

Here's the relevant excerpt with transcriptions in German and English so you can follow along:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yi9hT8ES2g

And here's a typescript of the speech, with the first page of the relevant section with proofreading by Himmler himself.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

Here's a little something; It's called the Posen speech. It was a speech given by Heinrich Himmler to SS officers on 4 October 1943. At one point, he explicitly talks about the extermination (Ausrottung) of the Jews.

Here's the relevant excerpt with transcriptions in German and English so you can follow along:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yi9hT8ES2g

And here's a typescript of the speech, with the first page of the relevant section with proofreading by Himmler himself.

What is your DEFINITION of holocaust BEFORE we examine the translation of the speech. Translations cannot be antisemitic.

But again. It is only a religion. Why do you care?

[Rev. Rye]

I would define the Holocaust as the plan to exterminate the Jewish population of Europe as carried out by the Nazis.

And seriously? Why do you care? Surely it cant be that I'm Sherlock and you're Moriarty here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvZYpN-0bSc

[A_Nony_Mouse]

I would define the Holocaust as the plan to exterminate the Jewish population of Europe as carried out by the Nazis.

And seriously? Why do you care? Surely it cant be that I'm Sherlock and you're Moriarty here:

OK, to you it is only a plan with no defined implementation or outcome. Where can I read this plan? Where did you read it? How can there be a plan if it is not in writing?

No one here appears to mourn the Druids. Do you? If not what makes this particular primitive religion special in your mind?

[Rev. Rye]

OK, to you it is only a plan with no defined implementation or outcome. Where can I read this plan? Where did you read it? How can there be a plan if it is not in writing?

Minutes of the Wannsee Conference. Boom.

No one here appears to mourn the Druids. Do you? If not what makes this particular primitive religion special in your mind?

The Druids didn't have an incalculable track record of improving Western Culture. And, besides, they're the most benign of the three Abrahamic religions. Granted, given the competition, that may not be saying much.

Look through these lists and really see if you can still say "why do you care?" if every single one was destroyed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jews

[A Theist]

Are you going to ban everyone whose academic writings on the written languages of ancient Palestine-Syria gets cited by Stormfront? You certainly attack with a broad brush. So broad you look like an idiot.

Academic writings? Oh please...the only thing you write is bigoted Jew hating propaganda that's lapped up by neonazi dogs on Stormfront...

btw, did you ever get around to answering these questions, or are you still running from them?...

Still afraid to answer direct questions

[Anomalocaris]

The Druids didn't have an incalculable track record of improving Western Culture.

Irrelevent. The relevent things everyone who committed genocide upon the druids are very long dead. The proximal societal forces that led to the genocide of the druides has been extinct for a very long time. Most importantly, no druids are alive to suffer because of them even if the prepetrators and the social forces weren't dead and extinct.

Not so at all with the holocaust, virulent antisemitism, and the Jews.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

OK, to you it is only a plan with no defined implementation or outcome. Where can I read this plan? Where did you read it? How can there be a plan if it is not in writing?

Minutes of the Wannsee Conference. Boom.

Are you in fact defining your holocaust as the actions outlined in that whatever it is? I mean they are clearly neither minutes nor protocols. If so you will discover, should you ever read it, that no one has ever claimed the methods in it were ever implemented except perhaps camps on the east, camps only as in the US. You are shooting yourself in the foot.

If you believe otherwise, you need only produce the exact quotes of methods you are talking about. While you are at it look for the English idioms translated into German that did not exist in German.

No one here appears to mourn the Druids. Do you? If not what makes this particular primitive religion special in your mind?

The Druids didn't have an incalculable track record of improving Western Culture. And, besides, they're the most benign of the three Abrahamic religions. Granted, given the competition, that may not be saying much.

Unless of course you were to count literacy in pre-Roman western Europe to the Druids but that was not a matter of religion. So also there is no contribution of Judaism to western civilization other than the invention of a vengeful, malevolent god with a prurient interest in human sex acts.

As for the most benign, given the chance they murdered or drove out some 800,000 Palestinians in order to AS THEY SAID steal the land. Today they continue to rule millions of non-jews with a ruthless, jewish military dictatorship. They continue to treat their own non-jewish citizens as Blacks used to be treated in the South at the height of segregation.

The earliest form of Judaism was imposed upon Judea by the Maccabes. It was then spread by military conquest to the Galilee, Samaria and Idumaea and forced the people in a convert of die scenario. This was later copied by both Muslims and Christians.

To you this is benign? To me it is the same as the others. The abrahamic religions are intolerant religions because they follow the commandments of Yahweh found in the bible. To me this is far from benign.

You do not appear to know any history, modern or ancient. You appear to want to judge people by what they do when they are out of power rather than what they do when they are in power. That is dumb.

Look through these lists and really see if you can still say "why do you care?" if every single one was destroyed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jews

I graduated high school. I have no use for wikipedia. As for any list the people would be the people regardless of the religion. It is incredible that anyone would attribute anything other than religious crap to people because of their religion.

You appear to be confusing people with their religion deliberately so. I cannot imagine it being done by accident.

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Are you going to ban everyone whose academic writings on the written languages of ancient Palestine-Syria gets cited by Stormfront? You certainly attack with a broad brush. So broad you look like an idiot.

Academic writings? Oh please...the only thing you write is bigoted Jew hating propaganda that's lapped up by neonazi dogs on Stormfront...

You may discuss the quality but it does satisfy the definition of both academic and scholarly. If you disagree with the content or have another take on the scripts used in ancient Palestine you can always post your disagreement. Of course at the moment all you know about the subject is what you read in my article so you would just embarrass yourself.

btw, did you ever get around to answering these questions, or are you still running from them?...

Still afraid to answer direct questions

Still demonstrating you cannot define or describe this holocaust you believe in?

As to questions get those who are asking them to logon so I can demand an explanation for all their forgeries and death threats. The nizkooks are your people. Does supporting felons make one also a felon in Canada or does it take a material act of support as it does in the US?

Let just assume you are felon until you prove otherwise.

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The Druids didn't have an incalculable track record of improving Western Culture.

Irrelevent. The relevent things everyone who committed genocide upon the druids are very long dead. The proximal societal forces that led to the genocide of the druides has been extinct for a very long time. Most importantly, no druids are alive to suffer because of them even if the prepetrators and the social forces weren't dead and extinct.

Not so at all with the holocaust, virulent antisemitism, and the Jews.

Still NO ONE HERE has attempted to define holocaust as genocide so your comment is immaterial. Are you ready to offer a definition for your holy holocaust?

As to long dead, so? The entire adult generation from the 1933 Germany is almost all dead, a few senile ones still hanging on perhaps. What is the point? You can't blame any but them for the 1933 election. And after that turned into a dictatorship they were no more responsible for it than anyone else living under a dictatorship. Even if you do not like that just ask if the electorate can be held personally responsible and liable for the actions of their government. After the resounding chorus of NOs it cannot be applied to the Germans either.

And all those people in the German army? They were drafted just like 96% of Americans were drafted for that war.

If you think these so-callled "neo-nazis" are any different from children practicing Wicca you need to grow up.