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Refuting Evolution
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(December 1, 2013 at 8:31 pm)TaraJo Wrote: I've been taking all kinds of biology courses in college and I'm seriously thinking of going for a biology degree after I finish my associates in science. Truth is, evolution exists and it's the foundation of EVERYTHING in biology. That is not an exaggeration.

More to it, genes are real and genes can change. We can change them ourselves but our environment can change our genes, too. And the genes in our offspring can change, which is basically what happens with evolution.

Not only that, but we all rely on technology that is based on that idea. Specifically, we use drugs and vaccines that are based on knowing bacteria and viruses will change (aka evolve). If you deny that evolution exists, you're also forced to not understand why we can't manage to cure HIV. If you're going to reject evolution in textbooks, you should also be rejecting those medical treatments.

I think the most frustrating thing about the whole creationism/evolution debate is that people actually take the creationist side seriously. Mos of what I hear from them is pseudo scientific garbage, all dressed up in twenty dollar words to make them sound like they know what they're talking about.

I had an argument at HuffPost with someone who, while they accepted evolution, didn't think it should be taught in schools as "no one but scientists use it. Lawyers, police, doctors, none of them use it in their jobs"

When I tried to explain that evolution was fundamental to medicine he was in serious denial. He ended up arguing the fact with two doctors and a nurse who works in immunology . . .

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DOCTORS don't use it? What??? Lol
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(December 3, 2013 at 6:20 pm)Beccs Wrote: I had an argument at HuffPost with someone who, while they accepted evolution, didn't think it should be taught in schools as "no one but scientists use it. Lawyers, police, doctors, none of them use it in their jobs"

When I tried to explain that evolution was fundamental to medicine he was in serious denial. He ended up arguing the fact with two doctors and a nurse who works in immunology . . .

Hell, you wouldn't even need to go that far, because even if only scientists used it in their jobs, that still plainly puts evolution at home in science classrooms, part of the purpose of which is to prepare students for potential careers in science!

I wonder if that same line of reasoning could be used in other things: don't bother teaching math outside of the basic stuff, since you probably won't use it in your career. Drop art, because only artists use that. English classes better go, only writers really use those.

Fuck, that's really dumb... Confused Fall
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(December 3, 2013 at 11:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: English classes better go, only writers really use those.

I hear that shit....

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(December 3, 2013 at 11:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: don't bother teaching math outside of the basic stuff, since you probably won't use it in your career.

To be honest, most people never use anything beyond basic math outside of the classroom.

I never have.
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I do, but not very many equations. Now, if I get back into programming, I will use more for efficiency.
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To = time it takes for water level to rise or fall 37% of initial change (d)


I used to use this equation a lot when I was doing hydrogeology as a certified PG.
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(December 4, 2013 at 3:18 am)Kitanetos Wrote:
(December 3, 2013 at 11:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: don't bother teaching math outside of the basic stuff, since you probably won't use it in your career.

To be honest, most people never use anything beyond basic math outside of the classroom.

I never have.
There's a big argument about this right now- do we really need to make kids take, for instance, Algebra II? Since basic algebra and some geometry will be all most people need in their lives, there's a line of thought that making kids take more is like making them take advanced chemistry.

Many math teachers, of course, disagree vehemently with this, since learning math is also learning how to think logically- they argue that the goal isn't learning the math itself, but learning how to think.
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(December 3, 2013 at 11:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(December 3, 2013 at 6:20 pm)Beccs Wrote: I had an argument at HuffPost with someone who, while they accepted evolution, didn't think it should be taught in schools as "no one but scientists use it. Lawyers, police, doctors, none of them use it in their jobs"

When I tried to explain that evolution was fundamental to medicine he was in serious denial. He ended up arguing the fact with two doctors and a nurse who works in immunology . . .

Hell, you wouldn't even need to go that far, because even if only scientists used it in their jobs, that still plainly puts evolution at home in science classrooms, part of the purpose of which is to prepare students for potential careers in science!

I wonder if that same line of reasoning could be used in other things: don't bother teaching math outside of the basic stuff, since you probably won't use it in your career. Drop art, because only artists use that. English classes better go, only writers really use those.

Fuck, that's really dumb... Confused Fall

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That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
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