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RE: Monsanto Has Been Removed And Banned By:
June 24, 2013 at 7:00 pm
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(June 21, 2013 at 11:24 am)TaraJo Wrote: If you look past that, the question simply becomes: what is it about Monsanto that everyone hates if you take out the GMO scare.
Their legal dept. Those guys are dicks (very good at what they do...but dicks nonetheless).
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RE: Monsanto Has Been Removed And Banned By:
June 25, 2013 at 1:57 pm
(June 24, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (June 21, 2013 at 11:24 am)TaraJo Wrote: If you look past that, the question simply becomes: what is it about Monsanto that everyone hates if you take out the GMO scare.
Their legal dept. Those guys are dicks (very good at what they do...but dicks nonetheless).
I have yet to find a corporate entity that aren't dicks, legal department and otherwise. And whether they're assholes or not doesn't have much to do with their food being safe.
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June 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm
The GM process is very different from the process of selection or cross-breeding.
I wish people would learn how GM crops are actually crafted.
Selection and cross-breeding are non-invasive ways of manipulating the resultant plant through natural methods whereas the GM process uses radiation to cause small holes in the cell membranes and then have bacterium insert genetic code into the cells.
We have seen some truly wonderful things from GM crops, and some people have benefited from the changes. The real problems are with the legislation around the crops that allow for patenting and then when a strong wind blows some of the GM pollen into your field you are then forced to pay for your next years seeds because the terminator gene technology from the Monsanto crop causes all your crops to yield non-viable seed. These types of things would be akin to someone placing beers into your fridge, then making you pay for them against your will.
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June 25, 2013 at 9:48 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: These types of things would be akin to someone placing beers into your fridge, then making you pay for them against your will.
What beers?
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June 25, 2013 at 9:57 pm
Oh and the beers would make your home brewing stop working, so you would have to buy your next beers from Monsanto. Also, if you DID buy beers from some other vendor, the would slowly turn into Monsanto beers and then Monsanto would charge you for drinking their beers without paying for them.
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June 25, 2013 at 11:47 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Oh and the beers would make your home brewing stop working, so you would have to buy your next beers from Monsanto. Also, if you DID buy beers from some other vendor, the would slowly turn into Monsanto beers and then Monsanto would charge you for drinking their beers without paying for them.
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RE: Monsanto Has Been Removed And Banned By:
June 26, 2013 at 12:13 am
(June 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: The GM process is very different from the process of selection or cross-breeding.
I wish people would learn how GM crops are actually crafted.
Selection and cross-breeding are non-invasive ways of manipulating the resultant plant through natural methods whereas the GM process uses radiation to cause small holes in the cell membranes and then have bacterium insert genetic code into the cells.
We have seen some truly wonderful things from GM crops, and some people have benefited from the changes. The real problems are with the legislation around the crops that allow for patenting and then when a strong wind blows some of the GM pollen into your field you are then forced to pay for your next years seeds because the terminator gene technology from the Monsanto crop causes all your crops to yield non-viable seed. These types of things would be akin to someone placing beers into your fridge, then making you pay for them against your will. Just a comment, but I think they use virus as opposed to bacteria to insert the new genes.
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RE: Monsanto Has Been Removed And Banned By:
June 26, 2013 at 12:25 am
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(May 22, 2013 at 5:41 pm)Just Chilling Wrote: Austria, Bulgaria, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Japan, Luxembourg, Madeira, New Zealand, Peru, South Australia, Russia, France, and Switzerland!
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/03/23/...itzerland/
The main reason for the bann are their practices in buisness and the unavoidable bankrupcy of the European agricultural sector which would be the result of letting them in.
not the GMO`s
The European parlament actualy allows GMO`s within the European market:
http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten....-monsanto/
Those who oppose letting Monsanto in here are mainly agricultural interest groups such as farmers who want to avaoid the american style industrialisation of the agricultural sector.
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RE: Monsanto Has Been Removed And Banned By:
June 26, 2013 at 12:49 am
(June 25, 2013 at 9:36 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: The GM process is very different from the process of selection or cross-breeding.
The method is different, but the particular objective and resultant effect which anti-GM crowd witlessly abhors in one case but not the other is much the same - purposed creation of crop with genome that differs substantially from plants found the wild for the purpose of increasing yield and palatability.
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RE: Monsanto Has Been Removed And Banned By:
June 26, 2013 at 11:12 am
I'm not one to abhor GM crops, I just wonder if the methods they use to alter DNA directly might cause health problems down the road.
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