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Thoughts on the Woolwich killing
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 (May 23, 2013 at 11:57 am)ideologue08 Wrote:(May 23, 2013 at 11:51 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: heres one.No, Finsbury park mosque incident was a long time ago, I want to know here I can go now if I want Imams of hate, which mosque? And moreover, what Abu Hamza did was vile, he was inciting hatred Have you been there recently? Do you know for sure it is all good now? You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  (May 23, 2013 at 11:59 am)Sal Wrote: They are there, it's just they get undue credit; most of them are Wahhabis and similar ultra-conservatives who are analogous to Christian abortion clinic bombers.I'm a "wahhabi", you do realize that? The political circle (particularly in the US) call a "wahhabi" anyone who takes the Qur'an literally. In fact, one of the Muslims scholars that teaches me went to a US state department conference where he asked a state department official what they mean when they say the word "wahhabi", and the response from the official? "Anyone who has a literal understanding of the Qur'an". To say I am analogous to a Christian abortion clinic bomber is off the mark, that's just not true. 
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Yeah, not all muslims are fundamentalists, religion, most of the time has been very worn... as a political tool.  (May 23, 2013 at 12:04 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:I meant the same ultra-conservative (I think they call themselves "literalists") that bomb abortion clinics, I should've specified as such.(May 23, 2013 at 11:59 am)Sal Wrote: They are there, it's just they get undue credit; most of them are Wahhabis and similar ultra-conservatives who are analogous to Christian abortion clinic bombers.I'm a "wahhabi", you do realize that? The political circle (particularly in the US) call a "wahhabi" anyone who takes the Qur'an literally. In fact, one of the Muslims scholars that teaches me went to a US state department conference where he asked a state department official what they mean when they say the word "wahhabi", and the response from the official? "Anyone who has a literal understanding of the Qur'an". To say I am analogous to a Christian abortion clinic bomber is off the mark, that's just not true. It matters, insofar that they (the ultra-conservaties) are too cowardly to live up to their own hateful rhetoric and just accost and try to convince others to impart their hate in the form of bombing abortion clinics. You seem to be a coward, good - as long as you aren't preaching hate and the bombing of abortion clinics, I don't mind what you say.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
RE: Thoughts on the Woolwich killing
May 23, 2013 at 12:18 pm
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2013 at 12:18 pm by ideologue08.)
(May 23, 2013 at 12:18 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:Quite the opposite. You know where you have cowards and what to expect of them.(May 23, 2013 at 12:11 pm)Sal Wrote: You seem to be a coward, good - as long as you aren't preaching hate and the bombing of abortion clinics, I don't mind what you say.Are you propounding a negative connotation onto not being violent...?
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
(May 23, 2013 at 12:07 pm)ideologue08 Wrote:(May 23, 2013 at 12:01 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Have you been there recently?Why don't you go down there yourself and see? I'm being serious, go take a look. You're the one who wants to visit mosques! I visit as few religious buildings as I can. I have never had a good time in one. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. (May 23, 2013 at 12:32 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: You're the one who wants to visit mosques!But this is part of the problem. You don't want to set foot in a mosque but you're more than happy arguing that mosques are bastions of hate? 
 Quote:I'm a "wahhabi", you do realize that? The political circle (particularly in the US) call a "wahhabi" anyone who takes the Qur'an literally. So, "wahhabi" means "shithead" in arabic? A potentially useful bit of knowledge. Thanks for that...if nothing else. |
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