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How the Christian god failed?
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 (May 28, 2013 at 4:50 am)FifthElement Wrote:(May 28, 2013 at 4:26 am)Godschild Wrote: I'm glad to see that a Muslim doesn't believe the God of creation is his god. I'm saying the god Muslims worship is not the God of creation who in His infinite compassion found a way to forgive us, if we only will accept it.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
The god of christianity failed in the same way as your god failed.
Conveying his existence through a very restrict group of people, stemming from an extremely restrict geographical location of the planet, and a very precise temporal event. Sort of makes it sound like this particular group of people invented it... or had some psych problem... What amazes me is the sheer number of such lunatics that must have existed for a few of them to manage to convince so many [uneducated] people in the vicinity... and then, in time, spread the message as far as it has reached. And I think that making it look like it's invented is not how a uber-powerful entity should make itself known to the whole of mankind...  Quote:He will condemn a lot of people based on a silly, ridiculous, non-sens event that there is no way to prove it. Just like your allah and mohammered (piss be upon him)... Keep going you'll realise the abrahmic "gods" are not worth the paper they are written on in the end "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
 RE: How the Christian god failed?
May 28, 2013 at 5:27 am
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2013 at 5:35 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(May 28, 2013 at 5:19 am)pocaracas Wrote: Sort of makes it sound like this particular group of people invented it... or had some psych problem...Islam itself said that it is for all people and Muslims are obligated to communicate it to all others. Islam is also not rejecting other religions (before Islam) so a true Christian or Jewish person who lived before Islam will go to paradise. (May 28, 2013 at 4:32 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Yes, it is rational to cut someone hands off, because they are poor and hungry. They are poor and hungry because of social issues caused by said religion.References please! Quote: It is rational to beat your loves one because they sometimes disagree with youSame as punishing your child for doing wrong same as traffic fines to prevent bad driving Quote:People do not deserve the same rights, because they have a different belief. Yes, this seems very rational.Very rational! Same as an American who believes in the rights to sell and use drugs, you will still punish him. (May 28, 2013 at 5:27 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:They made it up, and came up with a self replicating way to keep it going.(May 28, 2013 at 5:19 am)pocaracas Wrote: Sort of makes it sound like this particular group of people invented it... or had some psych problem...Islam itself said that it is for all people and Muslims are obligated to communicate it to all others. The basic ingredients for any religion. If there is such an entity as god, it shouldn't require the likes of you to tell us about it. It would just show itself to us, like it did to all those people who claim to have had "experienced" it firsthand. Have a chat with us, impart some of its extra-universal knowledge... like parents do to their children. 
(May 28, 2013 at 5:39 am)pocaracas Wrote: If there is such an entity as god, it shouldn't require the likes of you to tell us about it. It would just show itself to us, like it did to all those people who claim to have had "experienced" it firsthand. Have a chat with us, impart some of its extra-universal knowledge... like parents do to their children.If you follow my proof, It is impossible (by logic) to see God. Even if he do that, how will you know that he is God, I guess that most of you will say "an Alien"  (May 28, 2013 at 5:44 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:(May 28, 2013 at 5:39 am)pocaracas Wrote: If there is such an entity as god, it shouldn't require the likes of you to tell us about it. It would just show itself to us, like it did to all those people who claim to have had "experienced" it firsthand. Have a chat with us, impart some of its extra-universal knowledge... like parents do to their children.If you follow my proof, It is impossible (by logic) to see God. If it is impossible to see god (and I'm going to extrapolate this "see" to include "hear, taste, smell, touch"), how do you recon your holy book got to have so much "knowledge" from it? Yes, it could be a biological alien... an extra-terrestrial... that's why I didn't say "show itself to me", but "show itself to us"... all of us, all of mankind. Could still be an alien, but heck... if the alien is indistinguishable from the divine, who cares? And do notice that Extra-universal is included in the definition of extra-terrestrial. |
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