The Meaningless of Life.

[pocaracas]

nothing is truly absolute in life. thus, the only meaning we derive is self-imposed.

hence why many deem morality transient, and that we should only hold a personal moral code (lol.. and people here scoff at me for saying so, when it's reality).

Society imposes a certain moral code. Your own personal version can't deviate from that one too much, or you'll suffer the penalty of being considered an anti-social, or worse.

[Violet]

Everything is pointless when there is no value assigned to anything. Value-assigning being the result of modicum intelligence, it is necessarily subjective... but that observation is irrelevant as to whether it be part of everything or no (We're assuming you exist, no?)

Ergo... if value is assigned to anything: everything isn't pointless. Violet just relieved you of the premise upon which your argument is based, please feel free to enjoy your now-copious free time

If you're curious about a hypothetical situation in which the valuing of things is removed utterly as an ability of anything what can currently value something: that's quite a different topic, and quite an enjoyable one, if you're into metaphysical shtuff. Don't think you are, though, so waste of time in my suggesting. Wasted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEaydBeV_C0

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aha,but do you think that things are going to go better or worse?

Same as always, overall.

Like I'm in high school now and what are my chances of getting an job in the future (i'm from EU) will I have bigger chances of getting an job or smaller?

Zero.

Same as before.

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cool thanks for the answers but I assure you i'm not an emo it's probably the most stupid culture ever created I just started taking interest in nihilism that is all.

It's probably not the most stupid culture ever created... nor does it likely even register. It is considered a net 'good' by me that you're taking an interest in nihilism... now I ask: are you taking an interest in nihilism (and thus necessarily also observing yourself an existentialist, these being defining hallmarks of all subjectivists)... or are you taking an interest in something that presents itself as nihilism, but is not nihilism? Nihilism, or fake-nihilism, essentially.

P.S: do you thing Friedrich is an emo as well?

Is retard equatable with emo, in your opinion? If so, then yes.

English isn't your first language, is it, JC? Asking now so that I don't enter into some english-teacher state in a desperate attempt to bring the four elements into harmony.

[Big Blue Sky]

Everything is pointless when there is no value assigned to anything. Value-assigning being the result of modicum intelligence, it is necessarily subjective... but that observation is irrelevant as to whether it be part of everything or no (We're assuming you exist, no?)

Ergo... if value is assigned to anything: everything isn't pointless. Violet just relieved you of the premise upon which your argument is based, please feel free to enjoy your now-copious free time

If you're curious about a hypothetical situation in which the valuing of things is removed utterly as an ability of anything what can currently value something: that's quite a different topic, and quite an enjoyable one, if you're into metaphysical shtuff. Don't think you are, though, so waste of time in my suggesting. Wasted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEaydBeV_C0

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aha,but do you think that things are going to go better or worse?

Same as always, overall.

Like I'm in high school now and what are my chances of getting an job in the future (i'm from EU) will I have bigger chances of getting an job or smaller?

Zero.

Same as before.

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cool thanks for the answers but I assure you i'm not an emo it's probably the most stupid culture ever created I just started taking interest in nihilism that is all.

It's probably not the most stupid culture ever created... nor does it likely even register. It is considered a net 'good' by me that you're taking an interest in nihilism... now I ask: are you taking an interest in nihilism (and thus necessarily also observing yourself an existentialist, these being defining hallmarks of all subjectivists)... or are you taking an interest in something that presents itself as nihilism, but is not nihilism? Nihilism, or fake-nihilism, essentially.

P.S: do you thing Friedrich is an emo as well?

Is retard equatable with emo, in your opinion? If so, then yes.

English isn't your first language, is it, JC? Asking now so that I don't enter into some english-teacher state in a desperate attempt to bring the four elements into harmony.

thx yes english isn't my mother tongue,so you will find errors in my post,I started to take interest in nihilism first option you have wrote

also i read about nihilism here http://www.counterorder.com/

[Angrboda]

There for a moment, I thought that she had said that he is now free to enjoy his copulation free time. Given that he's a high schooler, it seemed a reasonable interpretation.

Hey, JC, if you don't want your money, I know somebody that does.

[Gilgamesh]

Your mind has been warped by society. The game is optional, you know. You don't have to play. Why do you think there's so much anxious and depressed people in developed nations? Because they're brought up thinking they have to live a life that feels so unnatural and that if they don't they failed. There's other options, man.

FUCK THE POLICE.

[Terr]

In the end our bodies die,

Your right there, but why do you think life is pointless? We've all seen our dark days, but there's so much to experience and learn.

[Gilgamesh]

Yeah, I never understood the idea that if we don't live forever in some way, there's no joy to be had in this life.

[whatever76]

In the end our bodies die, our planet dies, and our universe & space will disappear.Why does anything matter? Does it really matter if our species dies out or any other species for that matter?

When I have felt this way, I consider what (physiologically, environmentally) is making me perceive the world as meaningless. This kind of escape into morbid reflection has a natural cause. I would say, eventually, it is for greater individuation.

Now I know that I'm young and I still know very little about life but I see human's purpose even more meaningless than an animals,because animals kinda have an purpose they are needed so that another species can survive or to keep another types of animals from over breeding. But humans purpose goes something like this: (from my perspective)
We humans when we reach an certain age we go to school,so that we will get an job with that job we will "earn" money and with that money we are going to buy things that aren't needed in our lives and if we stop buying things people would lose their jobs and no one would have no money,so in the end we have to work for the rest of our life's to pay for something we don't want so that just everyone can suffer the same horrible faith.

This is a story you are telling yourself. The question I would ask is: to what advantage is there in believing this narrative? There is an advantage.

So here are some questions I can't seem to get an answer to:

-Why do people still have kids,if our lives are pointless most of us are depressed and we are struggling to go through life and in the end we are going to die,why do you even want another person to go through this feelings,what makes you want to bring another person to suffer the same faith as you?

Let's make this personal:

Why still have me, if my life is pointless and I am depressed and struggling to go through my life and in the end I am going to die, why do I even want myself to through these feelings, what makes me want to bring myself to suffer the same fate as myself?

These are great questions, particularly why it is that you want to go through these feelings and why you want to suffer.

-Why do I need to feel depressed and bad about my self so that I can appreciate being happy?

Quite simply, you don't. This goes back to physiology and environment.

-Why do people talk and rate other people by how they look,wear their clothes,act...why don't they just leave other people alone?

We are social animals. The biological imperatives to survive and reproduce are tied up in social acceptance and rank. If the tribe dies, so do we. It's instinctive. Even the act of rejecting the tribe is a means to find acceptance. The way out of this problem is self-acceptance because the self is an internal feedback system of what the tribe thinks of my social fitness (i.e. the perceptions of others is the self)

-Why do people want to live for eternity what will they do for eternity,why people can't face death as the last phase of life. As Oscar Wilde said:

Death must be so beautiful. To lie in the soft brown earth, with the grasses waving above one's head, and listen to silence. To have no yesterday, and no tomorrow. To forget time, to forgive life, to be at peace.

Isn't this beautiful,why don't people accept this,how will they even enjoy heaven if they know that millions of people are burning for eternity in hell?

Nietzsche believed that Christianity was nihilistic because it taught that sacrifice of the self for the greater whole is the standard-bearer of morality. In our day and age, it is the corporation and the government which play the role of the church and crown and consumerism that defines morality.

Nietzsche suggested a reversal of values, where the actualization of the self was of greatest value at the expense of the whole. Erich Fromm suggested it was a dialectic between the two (nihilism and individuation) that led to spontaneity and creativity, what he felt was the meaning of existence. Sartre's answer was that the universe has no meaning and until we give it meaning. Thus we are ultimately responsible for the course of our lives and to rely upon God was a cop-out; it was an expectation that life should have meaning or that someone should hand us a meaning. As long as we played the game of rejecting or accepting meaning from an external source, we could not be free to live.

In the end, they all were suggesting that life is about living authentically rather than according to a external measure of perfection.

[Angrboda]

[Violet]

thx yes english isn't my mother tongue,so you will find errors in my post,I started to take interest in nihilism first option you have wrote

I'll avoid dumping your posts into concentration camps, in that case

also i read about nihilism here http://www.counterorder.com/

Never heard of it before. Should I have heard of counterorder.com before?