what is god actually

[theVOID]

One thing, why do you think naturalistic and intelligent choices would posit any different status in time? What inside time knows the difference? And what is the difference between naturalistic and intelligent choices when intelligence is a product of a naturalistic device (brain) and choices come into effect through the body?

Good point, but there is a 10 dimensional model so my 5 or six dimensions doesn't jive with science much better than a three or four dimensional model.

But 3 dimensional time doesn't jive at all.

Also, TX would not be time anyway, it would be the higher dimension, a plane with multiple 4 dimensional bubbles.

A dimension is only ever a line, never a plane. A plane is two dimensions, by definition, in geometry.

Alone it is a single line, but in total it is 5 dimensional geometry (plane was the wrong word i admit)

You're stepping into your dualism again Rhizo, like the soul thing, you're making unsupported assumptions and then devising a framework around a presupposition...

This statement is an ad hominem attack that fails to strengthen your case. My six dimensional model of the universe has nothing to do with dualism or a soul. Keep in mind that you are just making assumptions as well. I haven't seen any links to peer-reviewed studies or anything. Come on Void play nice. Like I have said all along, this is just my model that helps me comprehend space-time. At no point have I said, this is how reality works. I have yet to take on the daunting task of reading up on string theory. I'm not playing to win, I'm playing to learn. You've made good points all along, please keep it up!

Thanks,
Rhizo
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Ah hominem this ad hominem that, really, i don't give a fuck what label you have to apply to it, it was just a comment. I got the impression you were getting into dualism, that's all, if i'm wrong sweet i have no problem with that. I know you aren't trying to describe reality, i'm just trying to explain why the 3-dimensional time idea is nonsensical.

[Rhizomorph13]

Ah hominem this ad hominem that, really, i don't give a fuck what label you have to apply to it, it was just a comment.

Nice,
Rhizo

[theVOID]

Ah hominem this ad hominem that, really, i don't give a fuck what label you have to apply to it, it was just a comment.

Nice,
Rhizo

What's the point in raising fallacies outside of debates? You'll just end up like Arcanus who spends more time pointing them out than he does writing replies.

[theblindferrengi]

Rhizo,
Infinite does not decicarily mean infinitely large, it just means uncountable or immesuarable. The easiest way to achieve that is by having an uncountably large number of objects, and if you did travel back in time to multiply that coin, it would create a predestination paradox, (a time loop) and unless something ever were to put a stop to the time loop (if that is even possible), there would be an infinite number of the coins instantly, as the time loop would affect the same spot in time over and over. That is why time travel [back] is impossible, for the same reason going faster than light in our space time continuum is impossible, the energy required is not there.

[Rhizomorph13]

TBF,

Infinite doesn't just mean uncountable or immeasurable it has a specific meaning that includes uncoutable and immeasurable but also goes on forever.

I'm talking about going back in time to a specific point a finite amount of times which would multiply the coins a finite amount of times. If I went three times there would be six coins when I went forward in time to collect the coins. Ok, so I see the problem but have no answer. Maybe history really is eaten by the Langoliers.

I just need to think about leaving myself coins and then they will materialize if time travel is possible. Didn't you see "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"?

Rhizo

[theblindferrengi]

Infinite doesn't just mean uncountable or immeasurable it has a specific meaning that includes uncoutable and immeasurable but also goes on forever.

Going on forever is included within uncountable and immesurable.

I just need to think about leaving myself coins and then they will materialize if time travel is possible. Didn't you see "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure"?

Yes, exactly, and that is why there would be an infinite number of them, as there would be no way to control it and prevent a pre-destination paradox.