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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm
(June 9, 2013 at 4:27 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (June 8, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Walking Void Wrote: Edit: Furthermore, You are proposing that We have all of the required components for hyper cell-replacement to occur. Especially, since We have a creature capable of advanced healing, like the amphibious salamander (however not a reptile), We have an animal that metabolizes energy for bone and muscle.
No, I was proposing that a task that is basic for a reptile appears to be impossible for an omnipotent deity.
I myself describe the situation in a basic and concise form, but what the salamander (again unfortunately my example animal is not a reptile) does with a lost tail is quite a complex task. Complex for us for more years to come anyhow.
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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 9, 2013 at 5:05 pm
(June 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm)Walking Void Wrote: I myself describe the situation in a basic and concise form, but what the salamander (again unfortunately my example animal is not a reptile) does with a lost tail is quite a complex task. Complex for us for more years to come anyhow.
But simple when compared to the power of an omnipotent deity, yes?
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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 9, 2013 at 5:10 pm
I would be unsuccessful at defining a god who is both omnipotent and physically limited.
So... I do not know. If I state that the god is a physical being then I have to agree to it being able to be destroyed or to die.
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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 9, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Where did you get "physically limited" from?
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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 9, 2013 at 5:21 pm
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Everything has limits. Neutrinos travel the fastest because they have no electromagnetic resistance against them.
The speed of light is a constant.
We will always orbit the sun (given that no forces offset us).
Plants die if the nitrogen cycle was not in effect. Etc. Etc.
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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 9, 2013 at 5:25 pm
What does that have to do with a god?
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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 9, 2013 at 5:33 pm
(June 9, 2013 at 5:25 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What does that have to do with a god?
Can a god move faster than a neutrino? Let us record that. Can god change the speed of light? Let us record that too. Can god kill us all by altering our solar orbit? Maybe We should not test that. Can a god grow plants without nitrogen involved? If yes they must not be plants or animals. And let us record that too.
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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 10, 2013 at 1:13 am
(June 9, 2013 at 3:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: You have to be the stupidest person on the planet, I did not say they were happy with losing their limbs, I said they were not going to be cry babies such as yourself, they were going on with life, something you apparently know nothing about. None of them expect to have their limbs to be regrown IMO they seem to understand what you have no idea about, life is important and when bad things happen one goes on.
Just so long as they do their grieving in private so you don't have to think too much about sad things, huh GC?
And only someone as intellectually bankrupt as you would mistake questioning with griping, because you don't actually care enough to question things like this, do you? So long as everyone marches in lockstep with what you believe, everything's fine, but the moment someone dares pipe up, you've got to resort to dishonest tactics like this one to take the bite out of the question itself. Or maybe thinking like this just makes you feel better? "This isn't a legitimate issue with my religion, they're just griping! I'm right, and they just want to complain!"
I retract what I said earlier; you're not baffling. You're just another predictable apologist with no leg to stand on and nary a brain cell to rub together that hasn't been branded with a crucifix.
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RE: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 10, 2013 at 1:24 am
Everytime I see GC make some looney comment and Esquilax reply, i think abe lincoln from the "now you F'd up " scene. like "oh looks like GC is at it again, uhoh Esquilax saw it i see, GC now you F'd up".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQrQwxji-...ata_player
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Re: Why god cannot heal amputees ?
June 10, 2013 at 3:35 am
I had a manager at work once tell me he saw a man's leg grow back. He had me in a corner after I told him I don't go to Church (This is Britain in 2013, not even the Christians go to Church unless they're really old or from the Philippines) and tried to tell me that he knew a man in a wheelchair who regained the use of his legs. As I pointed out that Science can explain how these things happen naturally he started adding details that made it sound more magical before saying "He had a missing leg! I literally prayed and watched his leg grow back!" I burst out laughing at him at that point. I mean, did he expect me to think he'd forgotten that minor detail for the first 10 minutes of this story? Lol
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