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Women rights in Islam
#61
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 18, 2013 at 4:38 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is a fact that you must live with it
It is also horrible what God will do to non-believers in the hereafter.

Well, such a fictional being can't do much but scare the indoctrinated. You do have alot in common with christians. "Would you want the carrot, or the stick?" I prefer bacon, thank you very much Big Grin
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#62
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 18, 2013 at 5:17 am)LastPoet Wrote:
(June 18, 2013 at 4:38 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is a fact that you must live with it
It is also horrible what God will do to non-believers in the hereafter.

Well, such a fictional being can't do much but scare the indoctrinated. You do have alot in common with christians. "Would you want the carrot, or the stick?"
It is the same God of Jews and Christian

I think you have a problem; can you prove that punishment and reward is false or not beneficial?
No, so what are you basing your beliefs on????????????????
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#63
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 18, 2013 at 5:26 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:
(June 18, 2013 at 5:17 am)LastPoet Wrote: Well, such a fictional being can't do much but scare the indoctrinated. You do have alot in common with christians. "Would you want the carrot, or the stick?"
It is the same God of Jews and Christian

I think you have a problem; can you prove that punishment and reward is false or not beneficial?
No, so what are you basing your beliefs on????????????????

Burden of proof is on the claimant(in this case you).

You claim your god exists, we don't believe you. And since you can no longer kill those who disbelief your claims you now need to provide evidence.

We have no such requirement.
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#64
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 18, 2013 at 5:26 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: No, so what are you basing your beliefs on????????????????

Many things, it pertains to the matter? You mean morals? I have my morals as best defined as they can get, but I won't excuse them in a desert god invented long ago. No one truly lives alone and our civilization has thrived on very general moral rules: Do unto others what you wish t be done for you. This is a simple rule. No gods required, just simple logic.
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#65
RE: Women rights in Islam
Again, before the current dominate religions, there have been codes to support equality. The code of Hammurabi and Gilga'mesh Poem for codification of laws such as do not steal and do not kill. The codes were brought into society as humans learn to settle and farm.
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#66
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 18, 2013 at 4:38 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: It is a fact that you must live with it
It is also horrible what God will do to non-believers in the hereafter.

I'm more worried about what sadistic people such as yourself are doing to us in the real [non-imagined] world, actually.
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#67
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 18, 2013 at 6:12 am)Zen Badger Wrote: You claim your god exists, we don't believe you. And since you can no longer kill those who disbelief your claims you now need to provide evidence.
I didn't claim, it is a proof with that conclusion
to refute it, you need to use a scientific/logical method
It is not about beliefs, it is simply logic
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#68
RE: Women rights in Islam
Seriously, Muslim, why are you bothering with atheists? The people your society needs to reconcile with are all Christian.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#69
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 19, 2013 at 3:42 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Seriously, Muslim, why are you bothering with atheists? The people your society needs to reconcile with are all Christian.

I want people like him to stay as far away from me and others i love as possible. Folk like him are extremely dangerous and make the world a very dangerous place.
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#70
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 19, 2013 at 3:37 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I didn't claim, it is a proof with that conclusion
to refute it, you need to use a scientific/logical method
It is not about beliefs, it is simply logic

No you didn`t!

You merely posted some hilariously witless and completly stupid nonsence, such as a faulty collocation of numbers and letters which displayed your misunderstanding of mathmatics.

And the absolutly idiotic claim that cats proved gods existance.

And other nonsence.

So far, every single claim of yours has been debunked to be untrue or complete nonsence.

Yet you debate and behave as if your claims were true and proven to be true and unrefuteable and completly ignore the effort some more commited members gave into debunking your nonsence because you are to arrogant of a twat to even remotly considere your stuff being criticiseable!

So why waste time debating with you, when you dont even understand the concept of debating, which is beeing open to counterarguments and being capable of accepting the fact to be proven wrong when one is proven wrong!!!
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