Women rights in Islam

[Brian37]

The woman is evil in their culture. She is seen as unclean. Long as they are married - Women/Girls = Making Babies, Men/Farm Animals/Boys = pleasure. I am not sure why this is still going tho. I thought this post was dead?

can you give a reference from Islamic text to support your LIES?

All this proves is someone converted, so? People leave Islam and become Christians, others leave Islam and become atheists. Some Americans have converted to Islam, so?

Ayaan Hirsi Ali left Islam, and got death threats for doing such. She grew up in a very oppressive culture, escaped it, and when she made a documentary condemning the treatment she got growing up, her film maker friend was STABBED TO DEATH, with a knife stuck in his chest, with a note on it saying "YOU'RE NEXT", meaning Ayaan.

You are taking one women trying to treat her as an example, when we are talking about an over all climate. The over all climate in the east is oppressive to women, even in more secular Morocco, a girl committed suicide for being sentence by a court to MARRY HER RAPIST! You expect us to value a culture that forces a victim to marry the asshole who assaulted her?

If we were to talk the women in the you posted, we'd say the same to her. That is just her, that does not represent the majority of women in Islam nor the sexist attitudes most men in Islam have.

Malala was SHOT in the head, by sexist bigoted pigs merely for wanting an education.

What also sickens me, is that shortly after 9/11 I saw a Muslim women walking through a parking lot. If it were not for the 19 thugs who murdered 3,000 people, I wouldn't have had to see the needless fear in her eyes when I approached her to tell her most Americans do not blame all Muslims.

Don't try to convince us of shit, ACTIONS speak louder than words. You want us to back off, then call out your Islamic nutcases first. Work to get the middle east up to par with the secular west. THAT is how you can help us AND help humanity in general.

[Muslim Scholar]

can you give a reference from Islamic text to support your LIES?

All this proves is someone converted, so? People leave Islam and become Christians, others leave Islam and become atheists. Some Americans have converted to Islam, so?

Ayaan Hirsi Ali left Islam, and got death threats for doing such. She grew up in a very oppressive culture, escaped it, and when she made a documentary condemning the treatment she got growing up, her film maker friend was STABBED TO DEATH, with a knife stuck in his chest, with a note on it saying "YOU'RE NEXT", meaning Ayaan.

You are taking one women trying to treat her as an example, when we are talking about an over all climate. The over all climate in the east is oppressive to women, even in more secular Morocco, a girl committed suicide for being sentence by a court to MARRY HER RAPIST! You expect us to value a culture that forces a victim to marry the asshole who assaulted her?

If we were to talk the women in the you posted, we'd say the same to her. That is just her, that does not represent the majority of women in Islam nor the sexist attitudes most men in Islam have.

Malala was SHOT in the head, by sexist bigoted pigs merely for wanting an education.

What also sickens me, is that shortly after 9/11 I saw a Muslim women walking through a parking lot. If it were not for the 19 thugs who murdered 3,000 people, I wouldn't have had to see the needless fear in her eyes when I approached her to tell her most Americans do not blame all Muslims.

Don't try to convince us of shit, ACTIONS speak louder than words. You want us to back off, then call out your Islamic nutcases first. Work to get the middle east up to par with the secular west. THAT is how you can help us AND help humanity in general.

Converts don't prove that Islam is true
but what I mean is that the view about Muslim women is very exaggerated by western media
Women in Islam are treated differently not less than men

[Dragonetti]

They ask you about menstruation. Say: 'It is an indisposition. Keep aloof from women during their menstrual periods and do not approach them until they are clean again; when they are clean, have intercourse with them whence God enjoined you....'

Quran 2:222

Women are not clean. Cleanliness is a requirement in Islam? Not clean, then you must be evil!

Women are your fields: go, then, into your fields whence you please.

Quran 2:223

Rape is ok!

Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them.

Quran 4:34

Men are in charge! Charles in Charge!
They do not hold equal standings at all!

A male shall inherit twice as much as a female.

Quran 4:11

Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses...

Quran 2:282

Can't have them be equal!

If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The same shall apply to those [of your wives] who have not yet menstruated.

Quran 65:4

Bitches need to menstruate on command!

If you fear that you cannot treat [orphan girls] with fairness, then you may marry other women who seem good to you: two, three, or four of them. But if you fear that you cannot maintain equality among them, marry one only or any slave-girl you may own.

Quran 4:3

Slaves need no application for marriage!

I can keep going, but no need. Now we have established women are unclean and vaginas are evil! This puts men on top. Now, anal is not allowed, but BJs are ok! Plenty of local middle eastern comments have made me chuckle and lose hope for humanity. Bacha Bazi are not fake stories! Shit really happens. We have fired many Afghan generals for raping their male staff! Most men justify this crap from their delusional self righteous religion!

[Brian37]

All this proves is someone converted, so? People leave Islam and become Christians, others leave Islam and become atheists. Some Americans have converted to Islam, so?

Ayaan Hirsi Ali left Islam, and got death threats for doing such. She grew up in a very oppressive culture, escaped it, and when she made a documentary condemning the treatment she got growing up, her film maker friend was STABBED TO DEATH, with a knife stuck in his chest, with a note on it saying "YOU'RE NEXT", meaning Ayaan.

You are taking one women trying to treat her as an example, when we are talking about an over all climate. The over all climate in the east is oppressive to women, even in more secular Morocco, a girl committed suicide for being sentence by a court to MARRY HER RAPIST! You expect us to value a culture that forces a victim to marry the asshole who assaulted her?

If we were to talk the women in the you posted, we'd say the same to her. That is just her, that does not represent the majority of women in Islam nor the sexist attitudes most men in Islam have.

Malala was SHOT in the head, by sexist bigoted pigs merely for wanting an education.

What also sickens me, is that shortly after 9/11 I saw a Muslim women walking through a parking lot. If it were not for the 19 thugs who murdered 3,000 people, I wouldn't have had to see the needless fear in her eyes when I approached her to tell her most Americans do not blame all Muslims.

Don't try to convince us of shit, ACTIONS speak louder than words. You want us to back off, then call out your Islamic nutcases first. Work to get the middle east up to par with the secular west. THAT is how you can help us AND help humanity in general.

Converts don't prove that Islam is true
but what I mean is that the view about Muslim women is very exaggerated by western media
Women in Islam are treated differently not less than men

The hell it is, I have given you THREE real examples of girls/women being oppressed. One having her friend murdered, one getting shot, and another committing suicide. Don't tell me Islam values women when these things happen. Saudi Arabia doesn't allow their women to drive cars. FUCK OFF.

She wears a religious scarf that is rooted in sexism forced modesty by a religion that tells her she has no choice. Her not condoning what other Muslims do, does not mean there is not a problem.

Sexism in Islam is the majority climate and it is based on a very sexist book. Christianity is just as sexist, but it has had a secular leash on it for 200 years which is why the west isn't as fucked up as the east is.

All she proves is that people change their positions.

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Seriously, do you think, or does she think she will burn in hell if she does not cover her head? How is she responsible for wearing that when men should simply be taught to let them think for themselves and men should keep their fucking hands to themselves no matter if she wears it or not?

It is just a fucking superstition, no different than a Yamaka. Does a man really think if they don't wear it their pricks will magically fall off?

Basing your morality on goat hearding books is fucking stupid, it is nothing but a placebo. She can be modest for her own reasons and doesn't need men or a sexist religion to do so. Men don't need books of myth to tell them what diets to have, or what magic hats will prevent them from burning in a fictional hell.

Ayaan Hersi Ali left Islam, her vagina didn't fall off. She doesn't cover her head to placate sexist pigs.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I'd like to paraphrase Shelbyville from the Simpsons when I say that I for one refuse to live in a town that robs a man of the right to marry his cousin.

[Brian37]

Our Muslim friend here would like to preserve violence and sexism to placate his own insecurities and bad arguments and is miffed as to why we get pissed.

[freedomfromforum]

However men and women in Islam are not allowed to flirt or seduce each other except for the purpose of marriage.

The same punishment for adultery applies equally on them.

"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."
— Qur'an, Sura 24



100 stripes, without compassion, witnessed by all, for flirting! Fuck Islam!

[Brian37]

However men and women in Islam are not allowed to flirt or seduce each other except for the purpose of marriage.

The same punishment for adultery applies equally on them.

"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."
— Qur'an, Sura 24



100 stripes, without compassion, witnessed by all, for flirting! Fuck Islam!

Fuck all religion. I agree Islam sucks, but it wasn't that long ago that Christians oppressed blacks and women and natives. And orthodox Jews are just as sexist and mutilate babies dicks.

The west became civil in spite of religion, not because of it.

[freedomfromforum]

Fuck all religion.

"Fuck all religion."

[Muslim Scholar]

"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."
— Qur'an, Sura 24

100 stripes, without compassion, witnessed by all, for [i]flirting![

Can you prove that those punishments are wrong?