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Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
(August 15, 2013 at 5:20 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: How do you know Jesus was perfect? I wonder what he was thinking when he whipped those people out of the temple, especially after giving the command of "turn the other cheek".

The force is weak with this one. Almost shamefully transparent Smile

Jesus was angry. Nothing wrong with anger, if it didn't lead to hate, which /is a "sin".

Turn the other cheek/ use the old Roman mind game insult: they make themselves look bad.
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
(August 15, 2013 at 7:11 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(August 15, 2013 at 5:20 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: How do you know Jesus was perfect? I wonder what he was thinking when he whipped those people out of the temple, especially after giving the command of "turn the other cheek".

The force is weak with this one. Almost shamefully transparent Smile

Jesus was angry. Nothing wrong with anger, if it didn't lead to hate, which /is a "sin".

Turn the other cheek/ use the old Roman mind game insult: they make themselves look bad.

Imagine if Jesus had a gun!
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
(August 15, 2013 at 7:18 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Imagine if Jesus had a gun!

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I got your back. Tongue
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
Those poor saps at the Temple would've been fucked.
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
Well, the Jesus with a gun scenario is more appropriate with this:

http://youtu.be/NKgqUL-sY4o
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
(August 15, 2013 at 7:18 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Imagine if Jesus had a gun!

oh you! Tut Tut
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
(August 15, 2013 at 7:50 am)Maelstrom Wrote:
(August 15, 2013 at 12:02 am)Undeceived Wrote: How do you personally decide what is good and what is evil?

Common Sense.

(August 15, 2013 at 12:02 am)Undeceived Wrote: Fill in the blanks:
An act is right if and only if __.
An act is wrong if and only if __.

What is your rational? In other words, what are your criteria for determining right and wrong? Is good "that which produces the most happiness," for example? Or "that which the plurality of people in the culture agree on"? Or "that which maximizes my own self-interest"? These are all popular theories--utilitarianism, cultural relativism, ethical egoism. Or would you rather start by choosing between teleological and deontological ethics?
teleological: identify the "good", such as happiness, and promote it
deontological: what is right takes priority over its consequences, containing rules such as "all killing is wrong" or "stealing is never permissible"

This is open to anyone. Thoughts? Which moral theory do you stand by?
http://home.sandiego.edu/~baber/gender/M...ories.html
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
(August 16, 2013 at 3:49 am)Undeceived Wrote: This is open to anyone. Thoughts? Which moral theory do you stand by?
http://home.sandiego.edu/~baber/gender/M...ories.html

The "Me, Us, them" rule.
First, there's me. I do what brings greatest good to me.
Then, there's us. The family, the close friends. In case of problems, they have priority over everyone else.
Then, there's them, everyone else, getting the lowest priority.


Of course, even this rule has it's shades of grey... if I can sacrifice only myself to improve a some of "us", then I'd probably do that. But I would find it hard to do a one for one trade, unless it's my immediate family (wife and kids)...
However, knowing myself as I do.... I'd probably just freeze and be unable to decide what to do until it's too late... Sad
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
I can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but I find I rarely need to stop and asses ethical situations against some system of morality that I may or may not stand by as a matter of principle. I just seem to do it, or not (whatever is warranted), in the same way I blink my eyes or breathe in and out. It couldn't be - <gasp> - instinctive, do you suppose?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
@Undeceived, you still haven't filled in the blanks yourself.

You should do that if you want to see how we differ from you.
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