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If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?

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If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 11:57 am
As I said to myself in my last years as a Christian, the only way my God's existence would make sense is if He were completely above conventional/human reason.

Then I realized how dumb that actually is.

There's nothing logical about the Christian God, or really any god for that matter. There's no use proving Him logically. It's just not possible.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 12:18 pm
(June 15, 2013 at 11:29 am)Esquilax Wrote: That does nothing to demonstrate the existence of that god in the first place, though

Bingo. Why should it? How do you jump from the subject to some physically extant being? I don't see where you made that leap.
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#33
RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 12:21 pm
Faith must have logic. Fanatics doesn't have logic in their faith, its blind. Logical knowledge from saith Scriptures is needed.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 12:24 pm
(June 15, 2013 at 11:29 am)Esquilax Wrote: Besides, why can't a god be created? The Greek pantheon is full of gods with children and all... it really just depends on which god you're subscribing to. Tongue

'A' god might be created. But 'the' god, the first cause, cannot.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 12:26 pm
(June 15, 2013 at 12:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: But 'the' god, the first cause, cannot.

Anything can be created by the imagination of man, including God.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 1:40 pm
(June 15, 2013 at 5:28 am)fr0d0 Wrote: To create, god has to be a positive force. A negative force cannot create.

What does that even mean?
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#37
RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 3:13 pm (This post was last modified: June 15, 2013 at 3:28 pm by Godscreated.)
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 3:33 pm
(June 15, 2013 at 11:41 am)orogenicman Wrote: Erm, what? What words did I change?

Electrons have a negative charge

1. You changed kill to murder and added rape
2. Another change of subject! You're good at that huh!
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 4:10 pm
(June 15, 2013 at 3:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(June 15, 2013 at 11:41 am)orogenicman Wrote: Erm, what? What words did I change?

Electrons have a negative charge

1. You changed kill to murder and added rape
2. Another change of subject! You're good at that huh!

The issue was about whether there was anything negative in the Bible. Certainly god ordering Israelites to murder and rape the women and children if its enemies (which is what God sis in the old testament) is certainly a negative outcome. And I believe it was you (correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think I am) who argued that "a negative force cannot create". I showed in both cases that the claims were wrong. So no I did not change the subject. Next.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 15, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Murder and rape aren't what God commanded. So I can't see how this addresses the subject. You're simply twisting the facts.
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