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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Stimbo Wrote:Plus I don't think Lucas was all that much of a genius.
That word gets thrown around too much these days, and it's losing its meaning. Off all the people ever mislabeled a genius, Ol' Georgie boy is the least fit to represent that description.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 1:22 pm
i agree george wasn't too bright, good entertainment tho
george forgot that war is caused by religion and if people were that advanced they wouldn't be fighting anymore they'd be fucking.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 1:31 pm
(July 19, 2013 at 1:04 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Stimbo Wrote:Plus I don't think Lucas was all that much of a genius.
That word gets thrown around too much these days, and it's losing its meaning. Off all the people ever mislabeled a genius, Ol' Georgie boy is the least fit to represent that description.
Well just for shits and giggles I looked it up and George's IQ is apparently 147. So technically he is considered a genius or at least near genius.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 1:32 pm
Bah. Fucking IQ tests. By that standard, I'm a genius, too.
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July 19, 2013 at 1:47 pm
dogmatism is a reflection of stupidity, a person that prophesies war is no genius at all... a very unintelligent man mr lucas was, indeed.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 1:48 pm
(July 19, 2013 at 1:47 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: dogmatism is a reflection of stupidity, a person that prophesies war is no genius at all... a very unintelligent man mr lucas was, indeed.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 2:18 pm
Geek fest!! 
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Your absolutist statement is that you are condemned on a technicality. You are not. You are self condemned if you reject good.
Anakin was tricked by Palpatine who tempted him with the carrot of bringing Padme back to life (Anakin was tempted by that because he bore some grief over the loss of his mother. That was his weakness. Palpatine played on that). Palpatine deserved to die, killing him was just. The Jedi knew the mass pain and suffering that a turn to the dark side would bring. Anakins' was a selfish act that he falsely justified with reference to the Jedi code. He regretted it immediately.
He carried on compounding his rebelliousness until his actions we're completely immoral. Padme knew that. So did every other good person. Only the Sith, confused by their immorality and false justification for it, thought evil was good.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 2:25 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2013 at 2:28 pm by orogenicman.)
Actually, what happened was that Obie Won told Luke a pack of lies about Anakin, and as a result, Anakin cut off Luke's hand right before telling him the truth. And I understand that with James Earl Jones' infamous stutter, it took two weeks to film that one scene. But then, George only paid Jones $7,000 for his voice overs, so he couldn't really complain.
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 2:30 pm
(July 19, 2013 at 1:48 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: (July 19, 2013 at 1:47 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: dogmatism is a reflection of stupidity, a person that prophesies war is no genius at all... a very unintelligent man mr lucas was, indeed.
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maybe i am, maybe is always possible, but im not sure what you are referring to?
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RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 19, 2013 at 2:43 pm
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(July 19, 2013 at 2:25 pm)orogenicman Wrote: Actually, what happened was that Obie Won told Luke a pack of lies about Anakin, and as a result, Anakin cut off Luke's hand right before telling him the truth. And I understand that with James Earl Jones' infamous stutter, it took two weeks to film that one scene. But then, George only paid Jones $7,000 for his voice overs, so he couldn't really complain.
Interestingly, the original intention was that Kenobi had killed Luke's father. With that in mind, watch that scene in A New Hope in which he tells Luke about Darth Vader; note how uncomfortable Alec Guinness looks. In fact, that was the idea almost right up to that famous "I am your father" scene in Empire, by which time someone had come up with the twist reveal we all know and love. Though unseen, Dave Prowse still had to deliver the lines from behind the mask, in his wonderful West Country brogue, and the exchange as scripted went something like (for best results, imagine Vader's lines in a farmer-type voice):
"Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father."
"He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"
"No; Obi-Wan killed your father!"
At that point Mark Hamill was directed to dramatically his reaction, to accomodate James Earl Jones' true line.
Add to all that the fact that Boba Fett originally started his career as a cartoon character in the, erm, stunning Holiday Special - yes, I have a copy on my pc somewhere - and the oft-heard claim that Lucas had some grand story arc underpinning the trilogy gets increasingly more hollow.
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