Gimmah the evidence

[Little Rik]

Few hundreds years ago when Galileo and other scientists were saying that the planet earth was not flat and was not the center of the universe the ignorant masses were saying.........GIMMAH THE EVIDENCE.
It took few more hundreds years for the ignorant masses to understand how the physical system works.
Nowadays we got the same problem.
Not in the science of physics but in the science of consciousness.
As Galileo and other scientists found difficult to give evidence of their theories to the masses that lack knowledge in physical science also today is quite difficult to give evidence to people who lack knowledge in intuitive science.
Galileo did not have a spaceship to take the masses up in the space so they could see the planet earth round like a ball and also they could see their planet as a small piece of dust compared to the vast universe.
Nowadays is also not possible to show the hidden consciousness that lie within like the part of the iceberg under the water unless one make the effort to bring this part of consciousness above.
Considering that these days everything move a lot faster then during Galileo time it should not take very long to see the day in which people wake up and grow up.
Materialism, communism, capitalism religious dogmas are at the end of their run and like and old vehicle that can not keep pace in the fast highway of the future they will be dump in the rubbish bin of history.

I disagree with all of the above.

Your opinion about your disagreement would be respected if you could prove me wrong.
So far you haven't explained how by using the intellect you can understand and judge something that is not within the physical-mental arena like the consciousness.
In other words until you come up with something that contradict my post then your disagreement means nothing.

[Faith No More]

It's hard to prove incoherent babbling wrong. To refute your ideas, you would first have to make a valid, supported argument.

[Little Rik]

It's hard to prove incoherent babbling wrong. To refute your ideas, you would first have to make a valid, supported argument.

When people confuse the driver with the vehicle thinking that is all one thing or the real I with the body-mind then is quite easy to think that the challenger to this dogma or false truth is babbling.

[downbeatplumb]

Few hundreds years ago when Galileo and other scientists were saying that the planet earth was not flat and was not the center of the universe the ignorant masses were saying.........GIMMAH THE EVIDENCE.
It took few more hundreds years for the ignorant masses to understand how the physical system works.
Nowadays we got the same problem.
Not in the science of physics but in the science of consciousness.
As Galileo and other scientists found difficult to give evidence of their theories to the masses that lack knowledge in physical science also today is quite difficult to give evidence to people who lack knowledge in intuitive science.

Intuition is NOT science. Mistake 1.

Galileo did not have a spaceship to take the masses up in the space so they could see the planet earth round like a ball and also they could see their planet as a small piece of dust compared to the vast universe.
Nowadays is also not possible to show the hidden consciousness that lie within like the part of the iceberg under the water unless one make the effort to bring this part of consciousness above.

Brain processes can be seen through MRI scanners and brain function deduced by the study of diseases that affect the brain.
There are other techniques but you get the drift.

You are wrong.

Mistake 2

Considering that these days everything move a lot faster then during Galileo time it should not take very long to see the day in which people wake up and grow up.
Materialism, communism, capitalism religious dogmas are at the end of their run and like and old vehicle that can not keep pace in the fast highway of the future they will be dump in the rubbish bin of history.

Materialism communism and capitalism are at the end of their run eh.

You may be able to rustle an argument for the end of communism but the rest is just assertion based on what you want to happen.

That is why I disagreed with all of it, because it was devoid of a real point.

I don't even know what world you think you are living in!

[Ryantology]

Since when does an assertion become automatically correct until disproven? That's kind of like a thing among certain persuasions of people here.

[Tonus]

When people confuse the driver with the vehicle thinking that is all one thing or the real I with the body-mind then is quite easy to think that the challenger to this dogma or false truth is babbling.

I dunno, man. Babble is pretty easy to spot. Like the little blob of insanity I just quoted above, for example.

[Faith No More]

When people confuse the driver with the vehicle thinking that is all one thing or the real I with the body-mind then is quite easy to think that the challenger to this dogma or false truth is babbling.

[Little Rik]

.......Intuition is NOT science. Mistake 1.

I wish you have an idea about what constitutes science.
Science is the study and the search of something.
The search to reveal the hidden treasure that lie within like the part of the iceberg that is below the water is called INTUITIONAL SCIENCE.
As i already said in previous post not only is a science but is the older science ever as it was taught 7000 years ago by Shiva.
Physical science came ages later.
By developing this science one is able to perceive the knowledge that lie within in the consciousness. Perception or intuit does not make any difference.

Brain processes can be seen through MRI scanners and brain function deduced by the study of diseases that affect the brain.
There are other techniques but you get the drift.You are wrong.
Mistake 2

Before you worry about the brain functions you should try to understand the difference between the brain and the consciousness (the real I).
That is where the INTUITIONAL SCIENCE can help to understand this point.
Hopefully one day you will realize that the brain is just like the hard drive of a computer or a storage of information and the consciousness is the I, I decide to think or do something.

Materialism communism and capitalism are at the end of their run eh. You may be able to rustle an argument for the end of communism but the rest is just assertion based on what you want to happen.

Exploitation, speculation, price fixing, monopolies are cancer that have become terminal as we can see around the world where even the ex silent majority is now fed up.
But i suppose you must live in a monastery where the latest news come after 5 years.

That is why I disagreed with all of it, because it was devoid of a real point.

The real point that i try to talk about was all about the fact that in order to get the evidence about the consciousness one has got to develop that science that lead to the knowledge in that arena. Without it there is no way someone can understand anything about it.
Unfortunately people keep on thinking that the mind is the real I so the time in which they will wake up and grow up is postpone in the future maybe in the next life or the one after.

I don't even know what world you think you are living in!

I practice INTUITIONAL SCIENCE or tantric meditation but i live in a city not in a monastery or in a cave in the Himalayas.

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Since when does an assertion become automatically correct until disproven? That's kind of like a thing among certain persuasions of people here.

You mean like saying that God does not exist?

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When people confuse the driver with the vehicle thinking that is all one thing or the real I with the body-mind then is quite easy to think that the challenger to this dogma or false truth is babbling.

I dunno, man. Babble is pretty easy to spot. Like the little blob of insanity I just quoted above, for example.

I guess that for a child from the primary to hear something that is spoken later on at the uni it sound all like bubbling so i can agree with you but is not that i pretend anything really.
I was in the same mental situation in the past when i was thinking that the mind was my real I.
It is only when people judge what they don't know that i do not agree.

[Tonus]

I guess that for a child from the primary to hear something that is spoken later on at the uni it sound all like bubbling so i can agree with you but is not that i pretend anything really.

As far as I can tell, you are trying to imply that I can't make sense of your posts because I'm lacking in reading comprehension. I can assure you that the problem is not on my end.

[Little Rik]

I guess that for a child from the primary to hear something that is spoken later on at the uni it sound all like bubbling so i can agree with you but is not that i pretend anything really.

As far as I can tell, you are trying to imply that I can't make sense of your posts because I'm lacking in reading comprehension. I can assure you that the problem is not on my end.

I do not dispute that you can or can not comprehend what i say.
That is not the problem.
The problem is to feel and experience.
It is like when you want to take the driving licence so you can drive a vehicle.
You can study the road rules and pass the theory test but until you pass the driving test and drive the vehicle you can not experience the feeling of driving.
The same apply to what i am talking about that is intuitional science.
One thing is to know the way to discover this treasurer, a different story is to practice so you can feel the benefits of this discovery.
In other words when you say that you are not lacking in reading comprehension that means absolutely nothing because is not with understanding the theory that is possible to really comprehend how the system works and enjoy his benefits.