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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 24, 2013 at 1:11 pm
(June 24, 2013 at 11:06 am)LastPoet Wrote: What is this intuitional science I'm reading about? Is it edible?
It's called OPP (Other People's (Meta)Physics).
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 24, 2013 at 1:34 pm
(June 24, 2013 at 10:54 am)enrico Wrote: I must be lucky that we are in the year 2013.
If we would be in the year 1500 or somewhere around that then i could be burned at the stakes for challenging the OFFICIAL truth.
Oh don't pull the persecution card. That thing is in tatters already.
I live in the US. Not sure where you live but here the vast majority of people are Christians and atheists are the least trusted minority.
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 24, 2013 at 1:55 pm
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(June 18, 2013 at 8:33 am)Faith No More Wrote: It's hard to prove incoherent babbling wrong. To refute your ideas, you would first have to make a valid, supported argument.
This.
It's funny watching folk who think their baseless assertions have some sort of substance to them to warrant an equitable discussion on them. Delusions of grandeur and all that.
Funny, and somewhat sad.
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 25, 2013 at 4:34 am
(June 24, 2013 at 1:55 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: This.
It's funny watching folk who think their baseless assertions have some sort of substance to them to warrant an equitable discussion on them. Delusions of grandeur and all that.
Funny, and somewhat sad.
I guess when you believe in a magic being who speaks things into existence, you're bound to put more importance in words than there perhaps should be. Not that words aren't important, but they sure as shit don't bend reality around them.
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 25, 2013 at 7:12 am
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(June 24, 2013 at 11:06 am)LastPoet Wrote: What is this intuitional science I'm reading about? Is it edible?
Yes it is edible but not physically speaking.
It is edible by your consciousness.
The more you eat it and the more you feel better unlike material food that the more you eat and the more you feel sick.
Anyway i give a kudus for getting near there.
http://www.yogatales.org/Intuitional.html
(June 24, 2013 at 11:04 am)whateverist Wrote: (June 16, 2013 at 3:38 am)enrico Wrote: This come from someone who said that she practice yoga for 30 years to then show that she did not know the meaning of yoga.
And this from a little twerp who thinks there is only one meaning of yoga and they own it. There you go. More attention. Whore.
Thanks for the nice compliments however i have to point out to you that the meaning of yoga is UNION, union with the divine or union with the infinity.
This meaning has always been there since Shiva 7000 years ago and has not ever been changed so is not the little Enrico that made any changed to it.
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 25, 2013 at 12:27 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 7:12 am)enrico Wrote: (June 24, 2013 at 11:04 am)whateverist Wrote: And this from a little twerp who thinks there is only one meaning of yoga and they own it. There you go. More attention. Whore.
Thanks for the nice compliments however i have to point out to you that the meaning of yoga is UNION, union with the divine or union with the infinity.
This meaning has always been there since Shiva 7000 years ago and has not ever been changed so is not the little Enrico that made any changed to it.
Ahh that's better. Way to take a joke, bounce back and give it back. There might be hope for you yet. (Don't get your hopes up.)
Any how I'm inspired once more to try to give you some useful feedback, though I confess my expectations are low given how you start out already knowing pretty near everything. Still you did show some nice resilience there so here goes.
Did it ever occur to you that the word "union", its definition and the thing itself may not be precisely the same thing? It is all too common for we humans to squeeze their experience through the filter of language and then inject that understanding back out into the world they think they experience. I'm just wondering if calling it "union" may not be unnecessarily constraining your understanding of yoga. I'll stop there so you can decide if this means anything to you at all. (There is always more.)
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm
(June 24, 2013 at 10:04 am)enrico Wrote: If you would have read my previous post in a different thread you would have noted that i said that a particular thing has got to be tested in the right laboratory.
Consciousness can only be tested within not outside however by looking at the aura you can see the purity within.
As soon as you are able to tell us how you know any results you attain 'within', map to anything within reality and not just your own feelings, get back to us.
Quote:How would you like to be demonstrated?
By physical science?
Again you try to use the wrong tool.
You're the one claiming it is true, you tell us how it can be demonstrated to be true. What is the 'right' tool?
Quote:When you die physically and mental speaking your consciousness automatically take over and this has been experienced by all those who had a NDE experience which they also felt to be part of the the cosmic consciousness (God).
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that NDE's are anything more than a dying brain, releasing a chemical soup, in an attempt to cushion the blow of dying.
I've read NDE's. Did you know that NDE's can be reproduced in the lab using science? There is nothing about them that suggests anything other than a purely physical phenomena.
Your posts are nothing more than unsupported assertions.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 25, 2013 at 4:36 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I've read NDE's. Did you know that NDE's can be reproduced in the lab using science? There is nothing about them that suggests anything other than a purely physical phenomena.
There is an older gentleman that works in the same building as I do. One time he had a heart attack, died, and then was resuscitated.
When he came to the doctor leaned over him and said, "You were dead for three minutes. But we brought you back. What did you see?"
He replied, "I didn't see a goddamn thing."
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 25, 2013 at 5:02 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 4:36 pm)Rahul Wrote: (June 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I've read NDE's. Did you know that NDE's can be reproduced in the lab using science? There is nothing about them that suggests anything other than a purely physical phenomena.
There is an older gentleman that works in the same building as I do. One time he had a heart attack, died, and then was resuscitated.
When he came to the doctor leaned over him and said, "You were dead for three minutes. But we brought you back. What did you see?"
He replied, "I didn't see a goddamn thing."
Good enough for me. Looks like there is no pipeline to heaven, just down the drain.
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RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 27, 2013 at 8:41 am
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(June 25, 2013 at 12:27 pm)whateverist Wrote: (June 25, 2013 at 7:12 am)enrico Wrote: Thanks for the nice compliments however i have to point out to you that the meaning of yoga is UNION, union with the divine or union with the infinity.
This meaning has always been there since Shiva 7000 years ago and has not ever been changed so is not the little Enrico that made any changed to it.
Ahh that's better. Way to take a joke, bounce back and give it back. There might be hope for you yet. (Don't get your hopes up.)
Any how I'm inspired once more to try to give you some useful feedback, though I confess my expectations are low given how you start out already knowing pretty near everything. Still you did show some nice resilience there so here goes.
Did it ever occur to you that the word "union", its definition and the thing itself may not be precisely the same thing? It is all too common for we humans to squeeze their experience through the filter of language and then inject that understanding back out into the world they think they experience. I'm just wondering if calling it "union" may not be unnecessarily constraining your understanding of yoga. I'll stop there so you can decide if this means anything to you at all. (There is always more.)
You can give the meaning that you like to this word.
As far as i am concern the meaning of the word UNION within yoga means to merge into the cosmic consciousness and become one with it.
Like a drop of water that when reach and merge in the ocean become one with it. It become the ocean itself.
Capish!
Is your idea of union the same as mine?
If so then you can say that this is a union of thoughts.
But of course the best union is the union of consciousness.
(June 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (June 24, 2013 at 10:04 am)enrico Wrote: If you would have read my previous post in a different thread you would have noted that i said that a particular thing has got to be tested in the right laboratory.
Consciousness can only be tested within not outside however by looking at the aura you can see the purity within.
As soon as you are able to tell us how you know any results you attain 'within', map to anything within reality and not just your own feelings, get back to us.
I come back to you about this question as soon as you tell me what is the reality and what is not.
You are talking about realty but i doubt you really know what realty is and where it belong.
Enrico Wrote:How would you like to be demonstrated?
By physical science?
Again you try to use the wrong tool.
Quote:You're the one claiming it is true, you tell us how it can be demonstrated to be true. What is the 'right' tool?
I already said several times and that is by practicing intuitional science.
Quote:There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that NDE's are anything more than a dying brain, releasing a chemical soup, in an attempt to cushion the blow of dying.
I've read NDE's. Did you know that NDE's can be reproduced in the lab using science? There is nothing about them that suggests anything other than a purely physical phenomena. Your posts are nothing more than unsupported assertions.
You probably read a denial book or something similar.
The differences between a real NDE experience and a fake one induced in a lab or by drugs is that the first one is a vivid and clear vision that record experiences lived by the consciousness while the latter are blur vision coming from chemical reaction in the brain.
Many people who had a NDE experience even can tell about things that nobody knew before.
An example is about one nurse that drop a child fracturing a leg.
The nurse did not tell anyone for fear of getting in trouble.
When the NDE experiencer came back to life he point out this to the people in the hospital so they could fix the fracture and of course understand why the child was crying so much. hock:
(June 25, 2013 at 5:02 pm)whateverist Wrote: (June 25, 2013 at 4:36 pm)Rahul Wrote: There is an older gentleman that works in the same building as I do. One time he had a heart attack, died, and then was resuscitated.
When he came to the doctor leaned over him and said, "You were dead for three minutes. But we brought you back. What did you see?"
He replied, "I didn't see a goddamn thing."
Good enough for me. Looks like there is no pipeline to heaven, just down the drain.
First you should be careful about the food that you put in your mouth or in your brain.
Even in good faith people eat tons of steaming manure.
BUBU Wrote:But Castro told me is royal jelly not manure.
Actually Castro describe this crap in such a way that it really feel like royal jelly so i never doubt Castro words.
Well if you really feel is royal jelly then go ahead and enjoy.
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