Blind faith and evolution

[Little Rik]

Enrico, you still haven't offered any evidence for reincarnation. Until you do, shut the fuck up about it. You a literally talking about things you don't understand

Sorry Mr.Swearer but as far as you can not explain why a person born in a positive environment and somebody else born in the sewer then you can not say much about it.
Mother nature does not work on the basis of chaos and good or bad lack.
The universe last for so long and will continue to last just because the positive and negative balance each other at the end.
By the way try to balance yourself or you may get in big trouble.
You remind me a guy that after swearing loud had his jaw stuck.
He needed an operation, poor guy.

[Angrboda]

Look, we don't mind you masturbating but is it really necessary to keep insisting that we watch?

[Little Rik]

We are here because of evolution not chaos theory, I can't remember anyone saying we are here because of chaos other than you.

To believe that you born in a positive environment and somebody else born in the sewer just because of evolution is believing in chaos theory.
Here justice is total absent.
Do you really believe that you can kill people and get away with it?
Sorry that is total madness.

Bollocks does it. Evolution is not linear. Evolution depends on many things and things that were no longer beneficial can come back if hey are beneficial again.

Now you are saying that evolution is a chaotic movement because one of the opposite of linear is also chaos. That is funny.

are you serious! "no valid explanation for why we are born so different".
Genetics, society, upbringing, trauma, peers, medical conditions all these affect who we turn out to be.

This is a difficult point for an atheist to understand.
People who born with a disease that also their father had they tend to say........IT IS AN HEREDITARY DISEASE.
Oh, what a bad luck you may say.
Garbage!
If you born in that particular family it is due to your bad karma as in previous lives you cause problems (ACTIONS) in some way and therefore a medium in which to place yourself was needed.
So where mother nature will place you other then in an environment that is in line with the REACTION that has got to be expressed.
In other words you can not blame your father for that disease but yourself for building up bad karma in previous lives.

Rapist fish eh.
For some reason i found the idea amusing.

Nothing amusing.
It is just mother nature work in making sure that positive and negative always balance themselves.

[Bad Wolf]

Sorry Mr.Swearer but as far as you can not explain why a person born in a positive environment and somebody else born in the sewer then you can not say much about it.

Classic argument from ignorance, how about trying to argue without fallacies. Let me ask you a question, I promise its getting to your point: What does it mean when a very sick person, suddenly gets better? Is that god?

Mother nature does not work on the basis of chaos and good or bad lack.

I never said that, but anyway: prove it

The universe last for so long and will continue to last just because the positive and negative balance each other at the end.

Prove it

By the way try to balance yourself or you may get in big trouble.
You remind me a guy that after swearing loud had his jaw stuck.
He needed an operation, poor guy.

Maybe you should try and balance your ignorance with some knowledge. It would help with trying to back up all these bare assertions you are making.
May I ask how you know all this about the universe and Mother Nature?

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To believe that you born in a positive environment and somebody else born in the sewer just because of evolution is believing in chaos theory.

No one believes that, in fact no one ever said it. Evolution has nothing to do with it, you have made it very clear now that you do not actually understand the theory of evolution, go and educate yourself please.

Here justice is total absent.

Where is here? The planet? And justice is a human invention we use to sort out crimes. It does not apply to where you are born or who are your parents.

Do you really believe that you can kill people and get away with it?

Again, that was never said or implied.

Bollocks does it. Evolution is not linear. Evolution depends on many things and things that were no longer beneficial can come back if hey are beneficial again.

Now you are saying that evolution is a chaotic movement because one of the opposite of linear is also chaos. That is funny.

Liar. He never said Evolution is the opposite of linear. He said it is not linear

This is a difficult point for an atheist to understand.
People who born with a disease that also their father had they tend to say........IT IS AN HEREDITARY DISEASE.
Oh, what a bad luck you may say.
Garbage!
If you born in that particular family it is due to your bad karma as in previous lives you cause problems (ACTIONS) in some way and therefore a medium in which to place yourself was needed.

We can prove it is hereditary, can you prove its bad karma? can you prove reincarnation? We know hereditary diseases, we have studied the genes and alleles and know of mutations in the genes such as gene displacements and substitutions, that cause these diseases.

In other words you can not blame your father for that disease but yourself for building up bad karma in previous lives.

I doubt any rational person blames their father for a hereditary disease, seeing as its not the father fault he has and its not his grandfathers fault and so on

Nothing amusing.
It is just mother nature work in making sure that positive and negative always balance themselves.

All you have said is baseless assertions and so no one will believe you. Come back when you have evidence

[downbeatplumb]

To believe that you born in a positive environment and somebody else born in the sewer just because of evolution is believing in chaos theory.

People are born where they are because that is where their mum is when she gives birth.

If she is poor they are born in a poor area if she is rich...well you get the idea.

You seem to be talking more about economics than spirituality. That is good, there is such a thing as economics.

[Little Rik]

People are born where they are because that is where their mum is when she gives birth.If she is poor they are born in a poor area if she is rich...well you get the idea.You seem to be talking more about economics than spirituality. That is good, there is such a thing as economics.

So, you believe in the sand theory eh?
With the water movement the sand can be carried away and end up in different places.
Million years of evolution to shape intelligent creatures and then you could end up anywhere.
Again, good lack or bad lack.
Enjoy your theory and good lack with it.

[Little Rik]

Let me ask you a question, I promise its getting to your point: What does it mean when a very sick person, suddenly gets better? Is that god?

It could be but could also be a range of different reasons.
I have seen my late spiritual teacher touch the head next the pituary gland of some follower and see them collapse into a samadhi (state of total bliss). I myself was told about something that i did previously when he was not there so i believe that everything is possible for higher consciousness people or for God and at the same time i also believe that sudden improvements can be achieve by individuals if their mind is strong.

May I ask how you know all this about the universe and Mother Nature?

The elements that compose this universe are right inside yourself and so is the seed of life.
Space, air, heat, water, solid matter and the pure spirit in the pineal gland.
Once you learn how to control these element by practicing spirituality then you also come to know how mother nature works.

you have made it very clear now that you do not actually understand the theory of evolution, go and educate yourself please

Evolution is INDIVIDUAL. Even in blade of grass you find consciousness and this form of consciousness will follow evolution according to her degree of consciousness and will be channel where there are similarity and where there will be the opportunity for further development.

...........justice is a human invention we use to sort out crimes. It does not apply to where you are born or who are your parents.

Sorry your theory does not make any sense.
You can not prove it.
Action and reaction system apply everywhere not just physically speaking.
Your karma will take you wherever is needed to sort out your reactions.

Liar. He never said Evolution is the opposite of linear. He said it is not linear

Eh, linear is a latin word and it means a straight line so when we talk about evolution that does not follow a straight line we also mean a way of proceeding that is not consistent with following the same path.
When you travel with your car from point A to point B you (unless you are an idiot) you follow the straight possible path in order to reach your goal.
If not we can say that your way of proceeding is chaotic and that is what i said.

We can prove it is hereditary, can you prove its bad karma? can you prove reincarnation? We know hereditary diseases, we have studied the genes and alleles and know of mutations in the genes such as gene displacements and substitutions, that cause these diseases.

The fact that you born in that particular situation does not exclude that you born there because that situation is in line with your karma.
You are like a piece of puzzle.
You will end up wherever there is a chance for you to fit in that puzzle.

All you have said is baseless assertions and so no one will believe you. Come back when you have evidence

The evidence is you.
You born in this modern age as a modern man because you have already gone through so many lives from small to big consciousness.
But of course is not time for you to understand how the system works unless you start to bring the knowledge within up and out.
As the old saying..........IS NEVER TOO LATE.

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I don't see why an atheist can't believe in an after life!

That sound very funny to me.
Who suppose to give you a new life if God is not there?
What sort of body are you going to get? The same old rotten body or a new one?
Are you going to be reborn into a human being or as a plant or as a donkey?
Are you going to be born in this planet or different planet and different dimension?
Gee, very very interesting considering that the law of good or bad lack may apply!

[Bad Wolf]

It could be but could also be a range of different reasons.

I asked if it is god, not if it could be. I will ask again: when someone very sick suddenly gets better, is god doing that?

time i also believe that sudden improvements can be achieve by individuals if their mind is strong.

Tell that to all the people that are dying (and are going to die) from cancer. Fucking idiot. No your totally right, they are dying because they just don't want it enough.

The elements that compose this universe are right inside yourself and so is the seed of life.
Space, air, heat, water, solid matter and the pure spirit in the pineal gland.
Once you learn how to control these element by practicing spirituality then you also come to know how mother nature works.

You didn't answer my question

Evolution is INDIVIDUAL. Even in blade of grass you find consciousness and this form of consciousness will follow evolution according to her degree of consciousness and will be channel where there are similarity and where there will be the opportunity for further development.

No

...........justice is a human invention we use to sort out crimes. It does not apply to where you are born or who are your parents.

Sorry your theory does not make any sense.

What theory? Justice? Humans invented the word and the concept. In the animal kingdom, there is no such thing. We invented it

You can not prove it.

Wow, that is incredibly rich coming from you, considering the shit you are pulling out of your ass.

Action and reaction system apply everywhere not just physically speaking.
Your karma will take you wherever is needed to sort out your reactions.

Prove it

The fact that you born in that particular situation does not exclude that you born there because that situation is in line with your karma.

Prove that karma exists, or shut up

The evidence is you.

Yes, in the same way that you are evidence that the flying spaghetti monster created the universe only 2 days ago, but made everything with the appearence of age.

You born in this modern age as a modern man because you have already gone through so many lives from small to big consciousness.

Prove it, where is your evidence?

But of course is not time for you to understand how the system works unless you start to bring the knowledge within up and out.
As the old saying..........IS NEVER TOO LATE.

Let me ask you something. How do you know all of this? Did god speak to you in a dream? A vision? Or is this something your spiritual guru conman is poisoning your mind with. How much money do you waste on that shit?

[Cyberman]

So, you believe in the sand theory eh?
With the water movement the sand can be carried away and end up in different places.
Million years of evolution to shape intelligent creatures and then you could end up anywhere.
Again, good lack or bad lack.
Enjoy your theory and good lack with it.

... Wow.

[Little Rik]

I asked if it is god, not if it could be. I will ask again: when someone very sick suddenly gets better, is god doing that?

Or you do not understand english or you are drunk.
When i say that could be one or the other it means that both are able to do that.

Tell that to all the people that are dying (and are going to die) from cancer. Fucking idiot. No your totally right, they are dying because they just don't want it enough.

It seem that your acid trip went terribly wrong.
Try to wake up and grow up boy.

What theory? Justice? Humans invented the word and the concept. In the animal kingdom, there is no such thing. We invented it

So the serial killers get away with murder eh!
You got to be joking boy.

Yes, in the same way that you are evidence that the flying spaghetti monster created the universe only 2 days ago, but made everything with the appearence of age.

Your ingenuity is behind belief.
Yoga philosophy which is 7000 years old is more modern then today discoveries.
The elements that compose the universe (space, air, light&heat, water and solid) are there and here for all to see how they work and the creation and evolution are also evidence of the time that it takes to go around the circle that start with creation and end up with evolution but of course if you go around with blinkers on your eyes then it will be very hard to understand anything.

You born in this modern age as a modern man because you have already gone through so many lives from small to big consciousness.

Prove it, where is your evidence?

You must have very big expectation.
On the basis that homo evolve from low consciousness (homo erectus) to today man with higher consciousess you pretend that this evolutionary movement pop you out in this modern age with this higher consciousness without having to go through the hard yakka.
Keep on dreaming boy.
One day you will understand the meaning of rewards for honest work.

Let me ask you something. How do you know all of this? Did god speak to you in a dream? A vision? Or is this something your spiritual guru conman is poisoning your mind with. How much money do you waste on that shit?

I already explain few times how the system works.
For the slow one to understand i will say it again.
If you want to understand something you got to care and be interested in that thing that you want to know and if you want to go any further and fall in love with that thing or that entity you got to establish a relationship.
You are posting in this thread that talk about philosophy but you have no clue what philosophy means.
Philosophy is like yoga but while philosophy is more theory yoga is theory and a lot of practice.
At the end both seek to know the truth.
So by practicing spirituality you establish a relationship with that entity and the more you practice the more you enter in that arena of spiritual knowledge.
But of course if you lock yourself in the corral of dogma you will not be able to know anything that make any sense.
This universal reality is moving and changing all the time.
What is valid today tomorrow will end up in the rubbish bin of history so if you really think that this reality make sense at the end you will find yourself with a huge mental masturbation.