Is calling someone judgemental judgemental?

[NoraBrimstone]

What is wrong with being judgemental in the first place?

[Koolay]

What is wrong with being judgemental in the first place?

None at all, but if you make it out to be a bad thing, you better follow your own advice and not judge people. I don't even know if that's possible.

[genkaus]

None at all, but if you make it out to be a bad thing, you better follow your own advice and not judge people. I don't even know if that's possible.

Do you understand that being judgmental and judging people are two different things?

[Koolay]

None at all, but if you make it out to be a bad thing, you better follow your own advice and not judge people. I don't even know if that's possible.

Do you understand that being judgmental and judging people are two different things?

No.

[The Grand Nudger]

Generally, "being judgemental" refers to being either -excessively- judging..or perhaps not having a very adept "judging faculty" but using it anyway. To say that someone is judgemental can be a simple observation of fact. -Or- we could call the simple act of judging something the requirement for "being judgemental" - thereby eroding any specificity between the terms.

In short, it's necessary but not sufficient..lol.

[Koolay]

Generally, "being judgemental" refers to being either -excessively- judging..or perhaps not having a very adept "judging faculty" but using it anyway. To say that someone is judgemental can be a simple observation of fact. -Or- we could call the simple act of judging one thing the requirement for being judgemental - thereby eroding any specificity between the terms.

But making a factual claim from having limited information is the definition of judgement. So by calling someone judgemental after observing their behaviour is still judgemental.

What is excessively judgemental?

[fr0d0]

Just like religious faith being unjustifiable doesn't mean that all expressions of faith are unjustified.

Lolwhut?!

[paulpablo]

I've always been bothered, with those that call others judgemental. You can not logically criticize someone for being judgemental, since that in effect is a judgement and generalisation of someone else's personality. This is a fail of logic on the most basic level.

It's like someone saying "You should not use English", well then you have failed your own objective, so why should I listen to you?

The only reason why people have a problem with judgement, is not from any genuine reasoned argument, but just that they don't like what you are saying, so they will try to shut you up by ... judging you negatively!

Personally I love my sense of judgement, it separates my friends from enemies very quickly.

Discuss.

It's a word used subjectively to describe someone who judges people in an overly critical way, or you could say a very harsh way, what is very harsh is subjective.

So if I think you're being overly critical and I tell you that you're being overly critical , that isn't a failure of logic, because I would be expressing what I believe to be my fair and honest opinion of you which from my subjective point of view would most likely not be overly critical and therefore not judgmental and therefore not hypocritical of me to point out.

On the other hand there could be certain circumstances where you're right and a person might say to you something along the lines of "You're so judgmental, you deserve to die for that you horrible scum" and they might even in their own perception be purposefully overly critical of you for being overly critical in that sense you could say they are hypocrites.

But in day to day use it's doubtful that the person is being hypocritical I think.

[The Grand Nudger]

But making a factual claim from having limited information is the definition of judgement. So by calling someone judgemental after observing their behaviour is still judgemental.

What is excessively judgemental?

Which is fine, as I said. Now there's no difference between the terms and no more reason to discuss the subject. Now that we have that handled, I'll just use cunt where I might have used judgemental before.

[genkaus]

No.

Look it up.

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But making a factual claim from having limited information is the definition of judgement.

That is not the definition of judgment. You need not make a claim and it may not be factual and information you base it on need not be limited.

So by calling someone judgemental after observing their behaviour is still judgemental.

Nope. Because being judgmental carries with it the connotation of judging others negatively on a particular moral basis. Calling someone judgmental does not carry the same meaning.