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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 23, 2013 at 9:50 pm
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(July 23, 2013 at 9:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: Ok! But, like my co-workers, they were/are looking for an excuse.
If my car is dirty I don't usually get rid of the car. I figure out a way to get the shit off of it!
There's not enough bleach in the world to clean up the shit of the church.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 23, 2013 at 9:56 pm
(July 23, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (July 23, 2013 at 9:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: Ok! But, like my co-workers, they were/are looking for an excuse.
If my car is dirty I don't usually get rid of the car. I figure out a way to get the shit off of it!
There's not enough bleach in the world to clean up the shit of the church.
Very profound and enlightening observation! Did you make that up?
Is there anything that doesn't get dirty?
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 24, 2013 at 1:32 pm
(July 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm)ronedee Wrote: It reminds me of a time I was standing around with a bunch of fellow workers, and a new ped-priest was herded in. We were talking
about his crimes when one of my co-workers proclaimed; "thats why I don't go to church!" The others agreed. Angered (of course) I
said: "is that your only excuse?" There was silence, (of course) and dispersal.
Well you do sound a tad annoying. No wonder they moved.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 24, 2013 at 1:47 pm
(July 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm)ronedee Wrote: one of my co-workers proclaimed; "thats why I don't go to church!" The others agreed. Angered (of course) I
said: "is that your only excuse?"
My response would have been, "No, my main reason is that religion is a crock of shit!"
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 24, 2013 at 2:53 pm
(July 23, 2013 at 9:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: Ok! But, like my co-workers, they were/are looking for an excuse.
If my car is dirty I don't usually get rid of the car. I figure out a way to get the shit off of it!
How do you clean up an administration if you're just a voter? You vote for their opponents until they clean up their act.
How do you clean up a church if you're just a member? You keep leaving until they clean up their act.
When the Church becomes responsive to its members, they'll stop leaving. If it doesn't intend to become responsive to its members, they're in the wrong church anyway.
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 24, 2013 at 4:29 pm
(July 23, 2013 at 9:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: Ok! But, like my co-workers, they were/are looking for an excuse.
Or maybe they had slowly been coming to the realization that your religion is a sham, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back?
And perhaps your claim that they were looking for an excuse is just a defense mechanism against acknowledging that people can try your religion and come to the conclusion that it isn't real?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 24, 2013 at 10:37 pm
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(July 24, 2013 at 1:47 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: (July 23, 2013 at 4:28 pm)ronedee Wrote: one of my co-workers proclaimed; "thats why I don't go to church!" The others agreed. Angered (of course) I
said: "is that your only excuse?"
My response would have been, "No, my main reason is that religion is a crock of shit!"
Then I would respond, "well you must of fell in it." ...and move back a few steps.
(July 24, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (July 23, 2013 at 9:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: Ok! But, like my co-workers, they were/are looking for an excuse.
Or maybe they had slowly been coming to the realization that your religion is a sham, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back?
And perhaps your claim that they were looking for an excuse is just a defense mechanism against acknowledging that people can try your religion and come to the conclusion that it isn't real?
Don't pride yourself on some revelation here!
.... (more likely) they are lazy, and don't think they need church or religion.
I've known them all for years...20+ as a matter of fact! I see them at churches for weddings, funerals and memorials for fallen brothers & sisters.
They don't hate religion or God... they hate responsibility. Like most who don't practice their faith.
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 25, 2013 at 9:23 am
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(July 24, 2013 at 10:37 pm)ronedee Wrote: They don't hate religion or God... they hate responsibility. Like most who don't practice their faith. -and they hate america.....and kittens, and corn on the cob...etc etc etc
How asanine are we willing to get in defense of our faith Ron? Sigh........rhetorical.
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 25, 2013 at 10:48 am
(July 24, 2013 at 10:37 pm)ronedee Wrote: (July 24, 2013 at 1:47 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: My response would have been, "No, my main reason is that religion is a crock of shit!"
Then I would respond, "well you must of fell in it." ...and move back a few steps.
The only one around here steeped in the BS of religion is you.
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RE: Christian Minister responsible for thousands leaving the church
July 25, 2013 at 4:41 pm
(July 24, 2013 at 10:37 pm)ronedee Wrote: They don't hate religion or God... they hate responsibility. Like most who don't practice their faith.
Or maybe they just hate bullshit.
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