Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 7:27 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: (August 3, 2013 at 3:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: I never said the world was 6000 years old and many creationist do not believe it's 6000 years old. God created everything with age to it, so why not the earth, why should it be an exception, and why wouldn't people realize that the earth is no exception. What has this got to do with prayer, that's the OP.
You totally missed my point didn't you.
You are condemning satan as the princes of lies, yet by making the universe look old if it is only young god is the biggest liar of all.
Or are you deliberately avoiding that issue?
No I'm not, He created everything mature, that means it came with age. God wasn't trying to fool anyone, He created at His desire.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 2921
Threads: 26
Joined: June 25, 2013
Reputation:
41
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 4, 2013 at 5:54 pm
(August 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 3, 2013 at 7:27 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: You totally missed my point didn't you.
You are condemning satan as the princes of lies, yet by making the universe look old if it is only young god is the biggest liar of all.
Or are you deliberately avoiding that issue?
No I'm not, He created everything mature, that means it came with age. God wasn't trying to fool anyone, He created at His desire.
:Channels PeterPriesthood:
Now you're speaking my language, brother. This is very accurate if we are going to accept a Young Earth view. God obviously made the earth out of older materials and other worlds. I mean...duh. That's why there are dinosaur bones everywhere. These are simply creatures from another world. In fact, God, in his infinite wisdom, placed those bones there to confuse the scientists of our world. Men are so silly for trusting in the flesh of the arm instead of trusting in God, right GC?
:Ends channeling:
Or, the earth is just old no matter how you god-freaks want to justify it.
Posts: 3022
Threads: 34
Joined: May 11, 2013
Reputation:
30
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 4, 2013 at 6:14 pm
The flying spagehtti monster created everything 30 seconds ago, he implanted years of memories into humans and created everything with the appearence of age. Who are you to say that is wrong, you can't prove it isn't!
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
Posts: 14259
Threads: 48
Joined: March 1, 2009
Reputation:
80
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 5, 2013 at 4:55 am
How does the flying spaghetti monster differ from God?
If he's the same, then yes.
If he's imaginary, then he can do nothing
:p
Posts: 11260
Threads: 61
Joined: January 5, 2013
Reputation:
123
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 5, 2013 at 5:07 am
(August 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: No I'm not, He created everything mature, that means it came with age. God wasn't trying to fool anyone, He created at His desire.
So he created the Earth to look old according to his desires, meaning he was being deliberately misleading... he just wasn't trying to fool anyone.
If I tell a deliberate falsehood, without the expectation or desire that it actually mislead people, have I not still told a knowing lie?
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!
Posts: 5389
Threads: 52
Joined: January 3, 2010
Reputation:
48
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 5, 2013 at 6:05 am
(August 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 3, 2013 at 7:27 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: You totally missed my point didn't you.
You are condemning satan as the princes of lies, yet by making the universe look old if it is only young god is the biggest liar of all.
Or are you deliberately avoiding that issue?
No I'm not, He created everything mature, that means it came with age. God wasn't trying to fool anyone, He created at His desire.
I don't know if your pathetic attempts to rationalize your irreconcilable beliefs are funny or sad.
Or both.
![[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo112%2Fpussinboots_photos%2FBikes%2Fmybannerglitter06eee094.gif)
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
Posts: 8781
Threads: 26
Joined: March 15, 2010
Reputation:
29
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 5, 2013 at 3:50 pm
(August 5, 2013 at 6:05 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (August 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: No I'm not, He created everything mature, that means it came with age. God wasn't trying to fool anyone, He created at His desire.
I don't know if your pathetic attempts to rationalize your irreconcilable beliefs are funny or sad.
Or both.
Nice argument, no need to try harded
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Posts: 2921
Threads: 26
Joined: June 25, 2013
Reputation:
41
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 5, 2013 at 4:44 pm
GC, why would your god deliberately make an earth to look older than 6000 years old? Why was that his desire?
Posts: 11260
Threads: 61
Joined: January 5, 2013
Reputation:
123
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 5, 2013 at 11:51 pm
(August 5, 2013 at 3:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 5, 2013 at 6:05 am)Zen Badger Wrote: I don't know if your pathetic attempts to rationalize your irreconcilable beliefs are funny or sad.
Or both.
Nice argument, no need to try harded ![Confused Fall Confused Fall](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/confused-fall.gif)
Uh huh, that's why you ignored my real argument, because you're just so up with the refutations, huh?
Could you maybe actually have a confrontation before you start posing, tough guy?
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!
Posts: 5389
Threads: 52
Joined: January 3, 2010
Reputation:
48
RE: Another Prayer Question For Theists
August 6, 2013 at 6:48 am
God gets caught out telling lies in genesis FFS.
He's a compulsive liar according to the bible.
![[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo112%2Fpussinboots_photos%2FBikes%2Fmybannerglitter06eee094.gif)
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
|