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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm
The current and historic charity of Christians as never been conditional. God shines His blessings on both the evil and the righteous alike. Jesus Christ freely gave his life for us, no strings attached. Every Christian knows that a coerced conversion is worthless. The Gospel is and always has been free.
Originally, you gave food and comfort to the homeless man. Now you are bragging about it. You have received your reward. But unlike Christ, who gave his life freely, you demanded that he violate his faith for your further generosity. In your "parable" you play the part of God. That's what makes it so contemptible. Get a clue, YOU are not God.
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 3, 2013 at 1:18 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: YOU are not God.
Can you prove that?
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 3, 2013 at 1:44 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Originally, you gave food and comfort to the homeless man. Now you are bragging about it. You have received your reward. But unlike Christ, who gave his life freely, you demanded that he violate his faith for your further generosity. In your "parable" you play the part of God. That's what makes it so contemptible. Get a clue, YOU are not God.
So what's the difference? Seriously, I've never understood this: what is it about god that gives him so many passes on the social mores you expect others to follow? It can't be that he's a source of morality and righteousness, because if that were the case he'd obviously never stoop so low as to commit an act you'd find unacceptable if a lowly human did it.
Is it just might makes right?
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 3, 2013 at 2:22 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The current and historic charity of Christians as never been conditional.
Wrong. A lot of christian charities forces their beliefs onto others, e.g. "You cannot have this loaf of bread, unless you sit through a whole mass."
Quote: But unlike Christ, who gave his life freely, you demanded that he violate his faith for your further generosity.
Huh. No demands made by Jesus?
Quote:In your "parable" you play the part of God. That's what makes it so contemptible. Get a clue, YOU are not God.
The point is slapping you in the face, yet it seems you try to avoid it. God is nonexistent, FFF exists.
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm
I hope that this is just a story, and that you didn't actually do it - because this sort of tit for tat is a dick move.
... and no, I didn't miss the point at all.
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 3, 2013 at 2:59 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 3:15 am)Kayenneh Wrote: GC, something happened to your post (at least I can't see it). Is it on purpose, or do you want me to restore it?
Restore it please.
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 3, 2013 at 7:14 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 1:18 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (August 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: YOU are not God.
Can you prove that?
Well, he exists and he helped the bum. That's pretty strong evidence that he's not the christian god.
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 3, 2013 at 7:44 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Now you are bragging about it. You have received your reward
For the record, I'm not bragging, and unlike christians, I did not do it for any 'reward'.
The hole you are digging for yourself gets wider the deeper you dig.
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 4, 2013 at 1:17 pm
(August 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I hope that this is just a story, and that you didn't actually do it - because this sort of tit for tat is a dick move.
Yes, this was just a story to DEMONstrate the "love" of god in a fleshed-out parable. I did not actually bait this man only to leave him wanting. I have only ever given care and attention to homeless humans I encounter. Unlike the christian god, I would never demand such blind obedience for my "love" and providence in return.
And, I agree that it is a dick move to offer good things only to JERK them away unless one submits - that was the demonstration I provided to portray (god's) behavior.
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RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 4, 2013 at 9:41 pm
Perhaps Chad has missed the fact that this was parable, and the fact that it is analogous to the situation in his soteriology?
But of course, he jumps to the special pleading of "You're not God!!11"
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