There was no census when Jesus was born

[ronedee]

Okay, Christians, explain this:

For 1600 years, it was accepted that Jesus was born in 3 B.C. But then about a 100 years ago, someone realized that "Hey, Herod died in 4 B.C., so Jesus had to have been born in 6 B.C." Unfortunately, there are problems with this theory:

1) There is no historical record of any kind from any culture that Herod ordered a census to be held in the last couple years of his life. Josephus kept extensive records of the life of Herod, and never once mentions a census between 6 and 4 B.C.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_there_reco..._Bethlehem

2) Despite this, it is also well established in the book of Luke that Quirinias was governor of Syria (Luke 2:2) when the census was held. However, Quirinias was not Governor of Syria until 6 C.E. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirinius), ten years after Herod's death. According to other historical records. Quirinias did indeed hold a census (not Herod) in 6 or 7 C.E.

3) Why did Quirinias wait to hold a census in 6 or 7 C.E.? Because Judea was not a Roman Province until 6 C.E. There was no need for the Romans to take a census in the time of Herod because Judea was just a client kingdom.
http://www.livius.org/jo-jz/judaea/judaea.htm

So, I have established, with references, that Herod did not order a census, was not even alive when Quirinias was governor of Syria, and most importantly of all, Judea was not even a part of the Roman Empire until 6 C.E., when Jesus would have been 12 years old according to modern estimates. The bible is in error, and therefore, not the word of God, but just some fantasy written by creators of a new religion.

So, Christians, don't give me any "where's your proof" B.S., because I can give you more. And don't give me any garbage about the lunar eclipse. I can take that theory down, too.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/r...inius.html

Who are you trying to convince? Yourself?

You've gone through a lot of trouble for nothing. For one, and I'll quote atheists here... that was 2000 year ago! 20 centuries... so whose around now to prove your stuff? And you have people like "Josephus the forger" keeping records? Didn't the lil atheist guy with the tiny boner call you stupid for citing Joe?

Secondly, why would Christians want an atheist telling them about Jesus? Same as us telling you anything about your savior Dick Dawkins. it would be an insult... oui?

So, no... sorry, but that was just mental masturbation on your part.

[Minimalist]

"Josephus the forger"

Man, you are so fucking stupid. If there were a jesus he would be ashamed of having you for a follower.

Josephus could not "forge" his own writings, idiot. Eusebius...one of your church "fathers" ( or more properly motherfuckers) was the forger.

Try to keep that thought in your tiny little jesus freak brain, will ya?

[Bad Writer]

@ronedee: Josephus didn't give two fucks about a clown called Jesus because the scribe was a Jewish man. What we find in his writings is actually an interpolation, but you obviously don't listen close enough when Min is trying to teach you something important.

Edit:

Damn, Min, you beat me to it.

[Minimalist]

I think the only time he listens is when his priest tells him to bend over.

[Bad Writer]

It's not rape if it's consensual though. I can't see ronedee's priest going for a willing subject.

[Minimalist]

I'm sure jesus says its okay.

[Jackalope]

I'm sure jesus says its okay.

So let the priests fuck Jesus in the ass if he's good with it.

[ronedee]

And on the subject of masturbation... we observe a friendly pagan circle jerk!

[Minimalist]

And no children were harmed.....unlike your pervert priest club.

[Captain Colostomy]

I think the only time he listens is when his priest tells him to bend over.

I thought priests made them get on their knees. How else could they so easily swallow that load the vicar's giving them?