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RE: Jesus had schizophrenia and paul had temporal lobe seizures
September 4, 2013 at 1:26 am
(September 3, 2013 at 9:13 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: (September 3, 2013 at 9:07 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Imagine how much easier it would be in the desperate and ignorant and desperately religious first century palestine.
I would contend this point that the people in Palestine during the first century CE were desperate for religion. In fact, it wasn't for another 4 centuries that the Roman Empire force-fed Christianity to the masses, with other empires down the road doing the same.
No what I really mean is that palestine in the time of jesus was poor, Ignorant and politically unstable, thus prefect breeding ground for cults. Infact now that I think of it why even see this miracle and legend attribution in modern cult leaders like joseph smith.
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RE: Jesus had schizophrenia and paul had temporal lobe seizures
September 4, 2013 at 1:34 am
Now THAT was a time of religious hunger.
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RE: Jesus had schizophrenia and paul had temporal lobe seizures
September 4, 2013 at 1:37 am
(September 4, 2013 at 1:34 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Now THAT was a time of religious hunger.
Never quiet understood why, maybe it was just part of that huge intellectual boost america went through after the civil war
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
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Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Jesus had schizophrenia and paul had temporal lobe seizures
September 4, 2013 at 2:51 am
(September 4, 2013 at 1:26 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (September 3, 2013 at 9:13 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: I would contend this point that the people in Palestine during the first century CE were desperate for religion. In fact, it wasn't for another 4 centuries that the Roman Empire force-fed Christianity to the masses, with other empires down the road doing the same.
No what I really mean is that palestine in the time of jesus was poor, Ignorant and politically unstable, thus prefect breeding ground for cults. Infact now that I think of it why even see this miracle and legend attribution in modern cult leaders like joseph smith.
Those conditions apply to most of the ancient world. Which is probably why this essay is so on target.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/r...kooks.html
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From all of this one thing should be apparent: the age of Jesus was not an age of critical reflection and remarkable religious acumen. It was an era filled with con artists, gullible believers, martyrs without a cause, and reputed miracles of every variety. In light of this picture, the tales of the Gospels do not seem very remarkable. Even if they were false in every detail, there is no evidence that they would have been disbelieved or rejected as absurd by many people, who at the time had little in the way of education or critical thinking skills. They had no newspapers, telephones, photographs, or public documents to consult to check a story. If they were not a witness, all they had was a man's word. And even if they were a witness, the tales above tell us that even then their skills of critical reflection were lacking. Certainly, this age did not lack keen and educated skeptics--it is not that there were no skilled and skeptical observers. There were. Rather, the shouts of the credulous rabble overpowered their voice and seized the world from them, boldly leading them all into the darkness of a thousand years of chaos. Perhaps we should not repeat the same mistake. After all, the wise learn from history. The fool ignores it.
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RE: Jesus had schizophrenia and paul had temporal lobe seizures
September 4, 2013 at 7:07 am
Posted it on other forum (not even religious) in OT section. Thread got deleted and I got infraction.
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RE: Jesus had schizophrenia and paul had temporal lobe seizures
September 6, 2013 at 5:52 pm
Quote:I would contend this point that the people in Palestine during the first century CE were desperate for religion. In fact, it wasn't for another 4 centuries that the Roman Empire force-fed Christianity to the masses, with other empires down the road doing the same.
It was Bertrand Russell (I think) who once opined that most of the modern world's troubles could be traced to the fact that 1st century Judea lacked a really top-notch lunatic asylum.
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RE: Jesus had schizophrenia and paul had temporal lobe seizures
September 6, 2013 at 5:53 pm
That could be.
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