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A small thanks to the resident Theists..
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I can't say for certain without checking, but I think she may have you confused with catfish, as it was he who was making all the racket about eternity and such.


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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
(January 26, 2014 at 8:50 pm)rasetsu Wrote:


I can't say for certain without checking, but I think she may have you confused with catfish, as it was he who was making all the racket about eternity and such.



Catfish was banned before she posted her latest at me.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
(January 26, 2014 at 8:19 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
(January 26, 2014 at 2:51 pm)Drich Wrote: I don't think it's very noble to kick at someone after they decided to leave a discussion.. If you insist on keeping track of someone abruptly leaving a discussion why don't you count how many times you have up and left something we have discussed, or dropped a topical discussion for a personal attack on me or my family in hopes of trying to save your pride for the red herring you appeal to.

Generally speaking, if I choose to bail on an argument, I do so at the beginning, before making a bunch of unsupported assertions and unfulfilled implications. GC, in particular, more than anyone else I've ever noticed, digs himself in so deep he can't dig himself out again, and only then, after making a bunch of claims, just disappears, with or without red herring attached. On top of that, he'll frequently claim to have demonstrated something elsewhere, and refuses to show where. He's a dishonest and unethical bag of shit, and I have no problem calling a spade a spade on this one. If you don't wanna rumble, don't roll up your sleeves. I have no problem with somebody choosing to abandon an argument for whatever reason, in general. As noted, there have been a number of differences between you and I that, for one reason or another, I have chosen not to follow up on. What I did not do is make a bunch of claims, boast about my rightness, and then disappear when it came time to pay the piper. That's what GC does, and if he's gonna keep doing it, I'm going to fault him for it.

(ETA: Oh, and thank you for your vote. That's mighty white of you given how acrimonious our relationship has been.)
(ETA2: On top of everything else, you know for a fact that if I claim to have an argument, you can be damn sure I can deliver.)



Answer to The body of your post: In the end that is between you an GC to work out, I'm already in this deeper than i want to be. My only concern was to ensure that if/when I am showing grace and restriant, and not sniping oppertunities as they come, those I let slide by with a few, can maybe also let a few slide by.


ETA= I generally try and stay detached from the stuff said here. I look at the reasons people are argueing and mechanics behind arguements and not the emotional content. If one can put the emotions aside then it becomes alot easier to make sound judgements concerning other people.

I don't know if this is a 'white quality' or not. If it is my father's side of the family got so 'splaining to do.'

ETA2=I'm not picking nits, but if you really believe that then you might want to revisit your 'arguement' on what the Jews believe about the after life, hell and attonement.

Or we can leave things as they lay.
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
(January 27, 2014 at 4:18 pm)Drich Wrote: I'm not picking nits, but if you really believe that then you might want to revisit your 'arguement' on what the Jews believe about the after life, hell and attonement.

What you think I "might want to" cuts very little ice with me.


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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
(January 27, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(January 26, 2014 at 8:50 pm)rasetsu Wrote:


I can't say for certain without checking, but I think she may have you confused with catfish, as it was he who was making all the racket about eternity and such.



Catfish was banned before she posted her latest at me.

GC

I remember catfish but I can remember what he believed. Wasn't he all over the place had some sort of hybrid belief system?

(January 27, 2014 at 5:00 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
(January 27, 2014 at 4:18 pm)Drich Wrote: I'm not picking nits, but if you really believe that then you might want to revisit your 'arguement' on what the Jews believe about the after life, hell and attonement.

What you think I "might want to" cuts very little ice with me.



ROFLOL cuts little ice.. Where did that phrase come from? Are you Canadian?

I guess that is a real phrase I just looked it up. First time I heard of it.

Cuts little ice..
That beggs the question who cut the ice to begin with?
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
(January 28, 2014 at 12:20 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 27, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Godschild Wrote: Catfish was banned before she posted her latest at me.

GC

I remember catfish but I can remember what he believed. Wasn't he all over the place had some sort of hybrid belief system?

Yeah he wasn't consistent, I'm not sure what he believed.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
(January 30, 2013 at 6:53 pm)catfish Wrote: And my "religion" in a nutshell is this:

Jeremiah 31:31-34
King James Version (KJV)

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
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I'm not sure what this was supposed to mean...
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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If I can recall, Godschild, you had put your 2 cents in, you and John V. Then you both disappeared when I asked the hard questions. I was just asking for a rehash of that conversation with you is all. But alas, you've answered with an end all that comes down to, in the end, you don't believe everything in the bible and your reasons are your own.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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(February 13, 2014 at 1:18 am)Luckie Wrote: If I can recall, Godschild, you had put your 2 cents in, you and John V. Then you both disappeared when I asked the hard questions. I was just asking for a rehash of that conversation with you is all. But alas, you've answered with an end all that comes down to, in the end, you don't believe everything in the bible and your reasons are your own.

You need to quote the post, I never said I didn't believe everything in the Bible.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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A small thanks to the resident Theists..
(February 14, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(February 13, 2014 at 1:18 am)Luckie Wrote: If I can recall, Godschild, you had put your 2 cents in, you and John V. Then you both disappeared when I asked the hard questions. I was just asking for a rehash of that conversation with you is all. But alas, you've answered with an end all that comes down to, in the end, you don't believe everything in the bible and your reasons are your own.

You need to quote the post, I never said I didn't believe everything in the Bible.

GC

Dodge those questions!

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