A small thanks to the resident Theists..

[Esquilax]

1. You don't accept the dogma. In your own language, I would hope that if you were sick you'd go see the doctor.

If I was sick. But that's a pretty big if, and so far you haven't justified it at all. See, what I said before, about not covering your first assertion with a second assertion, you don't seem to be getting that. You seem to be unable to get past this initial assumption you're making, which is that there's something wrong with me that I need god to fix.

I have no reason to accept that as true.

Of esq not understanding what has been clearly explained to him?

Ah, I see: you've mistaken my rejection of concepts you claim to be axiomatic, as misunderstanding. Let me clear this up for you: I'm not failing to understand your points, I'm rejecting them as true, because you've failed to justify them. You just assert, assert, assert, and you've yet to provide any evidence. Despite what you might think, it's not axiomatically true that god is just, that's something you'd need to demonstrate through his actions.

[fr0d0]

Yes, you are sick by your own imperfection > needy of God. That's how it works.

Like I've said, you've had plenty of material presented on this forum that you've stubbornly rejected. You argue that black is white, just because something is said by a theist and there's the slightest chance you might lose an argument. That's called pride: a barrier to progress.

In this subject, all you get is logical concepts to address. As long as you insist that these concepts must be empirically based, you will continue to fail to understand. Evidence you have been given. Understand it you do not.

[Bad Writer]

How do you know Esquilax is imperfect? By what standards are you judging him? How do we know that these standards are accurate?

[Mr. Moncrieff]

If God was the almighty omnipotent, omniscient creator that he is continually espoused to be, surely he wouldn't have been so remiss in creating his most prized assets as so inherently flawed...?

[fr0d0]

Perhaps perfection is the built in flaw.

[Bad Writer]

Perhaps perfection is the built in flaw.

Whut...?

[Bob Kelso]

Evidence you have been given. Understand it you do not.

Who the fuck do you think you are? Yoda?

[fr0d0]

I've been learning a language, it does that to you! . I thought it made the point clearly so I left it.

[Bob Kelso]

I've been learning a language, it does that to you! . I thought it made the point clearly so I left it.

Ah, I see says the blind man... to his deaf son.

Anyway, kudos on learning the language well enough that I thought you were just trying to be a smart ass.

Edit: Or did you mean you were learning a new language that isn't English and it's messed with your grammar? lol

[Mr. Moncrieff]

Perhaps perfection is the built in flaw.

Perfection is the built in flaw we all have that explains the imperfections we have in imperfect creation by an allegedly perfect creator?

God moves in ridiculous ways.