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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 2:44 am
(December 16, 2013 at 2:35 am)JohnCrichton72 Wrote: I can only imagine what happens when he brings it up socially, even among theists that believe him it must be torturous to put up with. I need a sig, maybe Farscape related?
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Cranks, frauds, charlatans, and mountebanks are one of my favorite corners of psychology. They're infinitely fascinating in the way they maintain their behaviors and their self-image simultaneously. I can't say that I have a fully cohesive theory of them, though I'd lean towards a combination of cognitive deficits and ordinary cognitive bias, combined with a touch of dysrationalia (and likely high scores on schizotypy and psychopathy). Still, I just love to watch them operate. I can easily lose myself in their study.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 3:04 am
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Cranks, frauds, charlatans, and mountebanks are one of my favorite corners of psychology. They're infinitely fascinating in the way they maintain their behaviors and their self-image simultaneously. I can't say that I have a fully cohesive theory of them, though I'd lean towards a combination of cognitive deficits and ordinary cognitive bias, combined with a touch of dysrationalia (and likely high scores on schizotypy and psychopathy). Still, I just love to watch them operate. I can easily lose myself in their study.
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I fail to see how "he" is any of the above, although I am not a psychiatrist/physiologist. You think he secretly knows in some manner?
I suppose it seems logical, it does not appear as though he has come to "save" anyone give my brief read of his posts. It does appear as though he is looking for affirmation of the sorts, I suppose we should feel flattered that he has come here.
I would feel slightly more apprehensive at the crazy man waving his proof of God and arguing with, what looked to be, educated peoples in the other thread. If his "proof" is not proof, then his house of cards is to come tumbling down at some point. I hope he takes it well, and, nobody gets hurt.
There is something quite evil in me that wants to go in there and agree with him, just to see what happens........... it's not "evil" exactly. It's that inexplicable urge one might get to jump from a high rise, except I would be pushing someone.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 3:05 am
Adding some pictures to Tumblr, then I am going to bed.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 3:14 am
Just got home from a weekend away in Laguna, then Redondo Beach. My best friend and I decided we want to eventually buy a two-bedroom houseboat, get a dog, and live in the harbor in Redondo Beach. We can sail anywhere we want while keeping rent cheap... and have a dog!
Meanwhile, he's fighting with his girlfriend... the boat's probably not gonna happen for awhile.
*cue the music: Back to life, back to reality!
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 3:19 am
I'm at the point where I know everything has been decided but still can't quite stop studying for this stupid exam, gah!
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 3:27 am
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(December 16, 2013 at 3:04 am)JohnCrichton72 Wrote: (December 16, 2013 at 2:44 am)rasetsu Wrote: Cranks, frauds, charlatans, and mountebanks are one of my favorite corners of psychology. They're infinitely fascinating in the way they maintain their behaviors and their self-image simultaneously. I can't say that I have a fully cohesive theory of them, though I'd lean towards a combination of cognitive deficits and ordinary cognitive bias, combined with a touch of dysrationalia (and likely high scores on schizotypy and psychopathy). Still, I just love to watch them operate. I can easily lose myself in their study.
I fail to see how "he" is any of the above, although I am not a psychiatrist/physiologist. You think he secretly knows in some manner?
No, the exact opposite. There is a tendency to "layer on" beliefs about a person's psychology when their beliefs, words, and acts are at such a remove from what we consider reasonable, regardless of who we and they are. We tend to view those we have strong differences of ideology or belief with as either a) self-consciously dishonest, or, b) stupid or otherwise incompetent, or c) deluded or otherwise mentally challenged. Such views, to my mind, are an artifact of the working of cognitive dissonance inside us as we try to reconcile the following tuple of beliefs:
1) I am a reasonable, honest and sane person, who believes X,
2) Person B believes something incompatible with X,
3) Person B appears reasonable, honest, and sane,
4) People who are reasonable, honest, and sane believe things that are reasonable and sane (note how this creates a conflict between 1 & 2).
Given the incompatibility of these four "hypotheses," the one that is usually jettisoned is #3, that the person is reasonable, honest, and sane.
I rather suspect the degree of infirmity attributed to either people of disparate religious beliefs, or other questionable viewpoints, is exaggerated by this process. While I think Cranks, et al. likely differ from the norm in one or more aspects, systematically, resulting in the stereotypical behaviors, from an absolute perspective, I doubt they differ greatly from your average, run-of-the-mill Joe whom we wouldn't hesitate to agree with.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 4:10 am
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No, the exact opposite.
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So you are saying he doesn't know? If that's the case then how do any of the colourful words you used to depict him actually fit;
"Cranks, frauds, charlatans, and mountebanks"
Do these not require him to be knowingly attempting to deceive others with his babble?
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 5:50 am
Insomnia. That's what.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 10:35 am
I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, if I were you.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
December 16, 2013 at 10:40 am
(December 16, 2013 at 4:10 am)JohnCrichton72 Wrote: Quote:No, the exact opposite.
So you are saying he doesn't know? If that's the case then how do any of the colourful words you used to depict him actually fit;
"Cranks, frauds, charlatans, and mountebanks"
Do these not require him to be knowingly attempting to deceive others with his babble?
You're a bit of a crank yourself, aren't you, John?
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