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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 3:09 pm
"The God of the bible does indeed get angry, He does seek vengeance, He is wrathful ,and He is righteous, which means He will punish the wicked, and not be sorrowful or apologetic about doing it. How can a perfect God be these things? don't these negative emotion mean He is not perfect? No. Then why is it wrong for us to display these emotions. In short these emotions are reserved for God. They are reserved for one who can rightly and with out question or doubt discern who is righteous and who is not. the reason it is wrong for us to display these emotions, is because we do so out of a sense of selfrighteousness, and not out of a sense of absolute righteousness."
So basically - God is perfect, God bashes babies heads against the wall for the crimes of their parents - therefore that's OK - but it wouldn't be OK for anyone else to do it.
And God gets angry, seeks vengeance, is wrathful and isn't sorrowful or apologetic - you could add proud and vain to get a majority of the 7 deadly sins - enough to convict anyone else - but God is perfect and therefore its OK but it wouldn't be for anyone else.
And you wonder why we don't get it?  hock:
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm
(September 15, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (September 15, 2013 at 2:12 pm)Rationalman Wrote: Drich, your god hypothesis hasn't been tested because it is impossible. And a hypothesis that can't be tested or falsified, is a shit hypothesis and no use to anyone.
I beg to differ. The bible is the god hypotheses and it makes some easily falsified claims. Ex the prophecy against tyre, the plant created before the sun, and Noah's flood.
Ah no, I don't think it does. Prophecies not coming true and proof that there was no global flood does not actually prove god doesn't exist. It certainly weakens the god hypothesis but doesn't prove non existence. It doesn't prove god doesn't exist, however it does prove he is a fucking idiot
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 5:41 pm
(September 15, 2013 at 2:08 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (September 15, 2013 at 1:43 pm)Drich Wrote: So, your defaulting to a anti Go philosophy rather than directly answer the points I just made. Why is that?
 I noticed you hid your anti God thread in the safety of the atheist only section of the website, and now what? you want to see if I can put a dent in your arguements now that you have 5 pages of like minded people patting you on the backside? So what if I can? are you honest enough to admit your wrong, and will be willing to change how you think? Or will you like Minnie simply run from a verifiable fact driven discussion and default to a personal philosophy? (Will we be discussing your faith?)
Well first let's clear up something. I have no faith at all in anything as st Paul defines faith. Now I a open minded person and I go where the evidence leads. So if you want to make me a christian then all you have to do is 3 simple things.
1. Prove there is a god.
2 prove it is the Christian god.
3. Prove the christian god worthy of worship.
What does proof of God look like?
What does proof of a Christian God look like?
What does worth of worship look like?
If you do not know what the 'proof' you are looking for looks like, then how will you know how to recognize it when you see it???
Or were you just planing to simply shoot down absolutly everything presented no matter what, simply because you're not really looking for proof?
If you are I ask again, what do these 'proofs' you are looking for look like?
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 5:45 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2013 at 5:46 pm by Foxaèr.)
Drich sure is great at describing a lunatic deity.
Be wary of those who claim to know the nature of god, for it most often mirrors their own twisted desires..
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 5:46 pm
(September 15, 2013 at 2:12 pm)Rationalman Wrote: Drich, your god hypothesis hasn't been tested because it is impossible. And a hypothesis that can't be tested or falsified, is a shit hypothesis and no use to anyone.
How do you know if 'my God hypothesis' can or can not be tested or falsified if indeed you all are testing your ideas of God your 'strawgod' rather than the God of the Bible?
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 5:48 pm
(September 15, 2013 at 5:46 pm)Drich Wrote: How do you know if 'my God hypothesis' can or can not be tested or falsified?
By the very fact that it cannot.
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2013 at 5:55 pm by Drich.)
(September 15, 2013 at 3:09 pm)max-greece Wrote: "The God of the bible does indeed get angry, He does seek vengeance, He is wrathful ,and He is righteous, which means He will punish the wicked, and not be sorrowful or apologetic about doing it. How can a perfect God be these things? don't these negative emotion mean He is not perfect? No. Then why is it wrong for us to display these emotions. In short these emotions are reserved for God. They are reserved for one who can rightly and with out question or doubt discern who is righteous and who is not. the reason it is wrong for us to display these emotions, is because we do so out of a sense of selfrighteousness, and not out of a sense of absolute righteousness."
So basically - God is perfect, God bashes babies heads against the wall for the crimes of their parents - therefore that's OK - but it wouldn't be OK for anyone else to do it.
And God gets angry, seeks vengeance, is wrathful and isn't sorrowful or apologetic - you could add proud and vain to get a majority of the 7 deadly sins - enough to convict anyone else - but God is perfect and therefore its OK but it wouldn't be for anyone else.
And you wonder why we don't get it?hock:
Oh, I get it. You all feel that your 'morality' somehow trumps God's morality/righteousness.
Therefore God is not worthy of worship.
Close?
(September 15, 2013 at 5:45 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Drich sure is great at describing a lunatic deity.
Be wary of those who claim to know the nature of god, for it most often mirrors their own twisted desires..
Spicoli you have made yourself an excellent example of a person who has created a straw god.
Because your idea of god is so much different than the God of the bible, you can't help but identify the God of the bible as a monster.
But again because in your heart you have created your straw god, you know he can not possibly exist, especially when you start to compare him to the God described in the bible or the harshness of the real world.
(September 15, 2013 at 5:48 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: (September 15, 2013 at 5:46 pm)Drich Wrote: How do you know if 'my God hypothesis' can or can not be tested or falsified?
By the very fact that it cannot.
How do you know if the only thing you have ever tested is if your straw god has ever existed.
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 6:03 pm
(September 15, 2013 at 1:43 pm)Drich Wrote: I noticed you hid your anti God thread in the safety of the atheist only section of the website, and now what?
We don't have an atheist only section.
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 6:13 pm
(September 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm)Drich Wrote: Spicoli you have made yourself an excellent example of a person who has created a straw god.
The concept of god is nothing more than the creation of man's imagination at filling in the gaps of knowledge in relation to the origin of his existence.
My concept of the god portrayed in the bible is an accurate one, for I am unbiased and use my critical thinking skills to accurately understand a true image of the psychopathic deity theists worship as though he was real.
Your concept of god is muddled because of those rose colored glasses you wear as unholy protection against the truth of god's real lunacy.
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RE: Part 3
September 15, 2013 at 6:15 pm
(September 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Why is that?
Because you never make any points. You simply babble on about your vision of your fucking god as if you are some sort of expert. What you are is a believer in your own bullshit. You have no evidence to back up your absurd claims.
When you find some I will take you seriously but I sure as hell am not going to hold my breath.
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