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"You are not yet 50"
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(September 20, 2013 at 2:17 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:(September 20, 2013 at 1:32 pm)Drich Wrote: here is another translation.Or, John 8:57 and the Jews said unto Jesus, "LOL, Wut?" for Abraham had died thousands of years before.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist (September 20, 2013 at 2:22 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(September 20, 2013 at 2:17 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: Or, They were simply saying that Jesus was not old enough to have seen Abraham. Why all the fuss over something so simple. ![]()
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(September 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: They were simply saying that Jesus was not old enough to have seen Abraham. Why all the fuss over something so simple. Why 50? Why not pick a number closer to his actual age to underscore the point? Saying "you're not yet 50" to a 30 year old sounds really strange.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
John 8 (which includes a lot of extra horseshit aside from this) is also the site of the famed interpolation of the "woman taken in adultery" which even reputable xtian scholars admit - although obviously not the flaming fools who pretend to be such on this forum.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=KJV It ends with this: Quote:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. which does not seem very "godly." More like Brave Sir Robin running away. (September 20, 2013 at 4:46 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(September 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: They were simply saying that Jesus was not old enough to have seen Abraham. Why all the fuss over something so simple. Why didn't they use an age closer to Abraham's, does it really make a difference? ![]()
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(September 20, 2013 at 4:46 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:The traditional age of wisdom.(September 20, 2013 at 4:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: They were simply saying that Jesus was not old enough to have seen Abraham. Why all the fuss over something so simple. |
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