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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 1:39 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 1:24 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 1:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: And how is it that you know that? Are you claiming it's a result of pure intuition?
Or is it because you can compare and contrast different objects and use inductive reasoning? (When I say you, I don't literally mean "you", because you apparently can't).
Simple scientific principle and reasoning. 
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 1:42 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 1:24 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 1:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: And how is it that you know that? Are you claiming it's a result of pure intuition?
Or is it because you can compare and contrast different objects and use inductive reasoning? (When I say you, I don't literally mean "you", because you apparently can't).
Simple scientific principle and reasoning.
. . . says the person lacking principles and reason.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 1:44 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 1:42 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 1:24 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Simple scientific principle and reasoning.
. . . says the person lacking principles and reason.
Yeah, but they sure are simple...
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 1:59 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 1:23 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 1:11 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Analogy fail is right.
We don't detect design because of complexity.
We detect design when we contrast it with NATURE.
Not at all. We do not know where the complexity of nature comes from. For products of mankind we know and that proves complex design comes from nature.
But that shows that in every instance where we do know where it comes from, it is an intelligent being.
So the scientific principle has been established.
The vast complexity of life is more complex than anything we have made and in fact are very intelligence is a product of that.
Therefore, the vast complexity of life comes from a very intelligent Creator, aka God. Hmm,... so there is a god that created life.
There must also be a god that created the stars.
Another that created the minerals.
Another that created black holes.
Another that created dark matter.
Another that created anti-matter.
Another that created metals.
Another that created semi-conductors.
and so on, and so forth...
How many gods are we talking about, here?....
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 1:59 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Hmm,... so there is a god that created life.
There must also be a god that created the stars.
Another that created the minerals.
Another that created black holes.
Another that created dark matter.
Another that created anti-matter.
Another that created metals.
Another that created semi-conductors.
and so on, and so forth...
How many gods are we talking about, here?....
Fuck! So the Hindus were right all along!
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 1:59 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Hmm,... so there is a god that created life.
There must also be a god that created the stars.
Another that created the minerals.
Another that created black holes.
Another that created dark matter.
Another that created anti-matter.
Another that created metals.
Another that created semi-conductors.
and so on, and so forth...
How many gods are we talking about, here?....
Fuck! So the Hindus were right all along! Why do you think theirs is the longest living religion?
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Why do you think theirs is the longest living religion?
Because tradition is really hard to break, especially if you are not brought up to think critically and/or question? Silly me 
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm
"Why do you think theirs is the longest living religion?"
Oi Vey do I demand a re-count!
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 2:15 pm
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(October 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Why do you think theirs is the longest living religion?
Because tradition is really hard to break, especially if you are not brought up to think critically and/or question? Silly me
Yes, silly...
It's because it's true!!!
(October 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm)max-greece Wrote: "Why do you think theirs is the longest living religion?"
Oi Vey do I demand a re-count!
Don't forget I mentioned "living religion". Not counting any dead ones!
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RE: The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)
October 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm
(October 10, 2013 at 1:24 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Simple scientific principle and reasoning.
So why not debate that with me, cowardly lion? Don't have enough faith in your god?
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