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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 12:48 am
(November 22, 2013 at 9:23 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 21, 2013 at 10:55 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Prove it.
the 2'nd Person of the Trinity said it. that's why eschatology is studied to learn about final matters. nature has truth but not all the truth; and that's the problem with truth, like the poet said: it like dust, just can't get rid of the stuff. it just keeps hanging around. How can you prove the 2nd person of the trinity isn't wrong or lying?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 3:16 am
(December 1, 2013 at 12:48 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (November 22, 2013 at 9:23 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the 2'nd Person of the Trinity said it. that's why eschatology is studied to learn about final matters. nature has truth but not all the truth; and that's the problem with truth, like the poet said: it like dust, just can't get rid of the stuff. it just keeps hanging around. How can you prove the 2nd person of the trinity isn't wrong or lying?
when taken together: astrophysic, physical science, microbiologic, both the old and new testaments, a person arrives at the truth that God exist, and that Person's nature makes it impossible to lie.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 5:00 am
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(December 1, 2013 at 3:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: (December 1, 2013 at 12:48 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: How can you prove the 2nd person of the trinity isn't wrong or lying?
when taken together: astrophysic, physical science, microbiologic, both the old and new testaments, a person arrives at the truth that God exist, and that Person's nature makes it impossible to lie.
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(November 22, 2013 at 9:23 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (November 21, 2013 at 10:55 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Prove it.
the 2'nd Person of the Trinity said it. that's why eschatology is studied to learn about final matters. nature has truth but not all the truth; and that's the problem with truth, like the poet said: it like dust, just can't get rid of the stuff. it just keeps hanging around.
No . Provide evidence so we can verify for your claims.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 6:07 am
(December 1, 2013 at 12:48 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (November 22, 2013 at 9:23 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the 2'nd Person of the Trinity said it. that's why eschatology is studied to learn about final matters. nature has truth but not all the truth; and that's the problem with truth, like the poet said: it like dust, just can't get rid of the stuff. it just keeps hanging around. How can you prove the 2nd person of the trinity isn't wrong or lying?
Or even exists.....
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 8:06 am
(December 1, 2013 at 3:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: when taken together: astrophysic, physical science, microbiologic, both the old and new testaments, a person arrives at the truth that God exist, and that Person's nature makes it impossible to lie.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 8:41 am
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I think the power of pascals wager comes from the number of believers. If there would be only 100 christians out of 7 billion humans nobody would give a shit. But when you got Christians everywhere it's a little bit like a horde effect.
Also if christianity would be very small religion and some other religion would be dominant people would be afraid of that instead and don't give a shit about christian hell.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 1:08 pm
(December 1, 2013 at 8:41 am)feeling Wrote: I think the power of pascals wager comes from the number of believers. If there would be only 100 christians out of 7 billion humans nobody would give a shit. But when you got Christians everywhere it's a little bit like a horde effect.
Also if christianity would be very small religion and some other religion would be dominant people would be afraid of that instead and don't give a shit about christian hell.
Wiki has quite an extensive article on hell:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
The only sane and rational response is to any kind of hell is not to give a shit.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 8:47 pm
(December 1, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote: (December 1, 2013 at 8:41 am)feeling Wrote: I think the power of pascals wager comes from the number of believers. If there would be only 100 christians out of 7 billion humans nobody would give a shit. But when you got Christians everywhere it's a little bit like a horde effect.
Also if christianity would be very small religion and some other religion would be dominant people would be afraid of that instead and don't give a shit about christian hell.
Wiki has quite an extensive article on hell:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
The only sane and rational response is to any kind of hell is not to give a shit.
not the best strategy to have a bravdo attitude about eternal destiny issues. however, free will allows that.
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 9:42 pm
(December 1, 2013 at 3:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: when taken together: astrophysic, physical science, microbiologic, both the old and new testaments, a person arrives at the truth that God exist, and that Person's nature makes it impossible to lie.
Are you just fucking with us, now?
Look at this: by my nature, it's impossible for me to lie.
Do you now see the difference between the claim and the execution of it? All you've got is a claim that it's impossible for this person to lie, from a person you can't even confirm to exist, and you consider this proof of your ridiculous claim?
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RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 1, 2013 at 10:30 pm
(December 1, 2013 at 9:42 pm)Esquilax Wrote: All you've got is a claim that it's impossible for this person to lie, from a person you can't even confirm to exist, and you consider this proof of your ridiculous claim?
This is what I find so childishly silly about all such claims. They all, almost invariably, boil down to wishful thinking and special pleading.
Snowy, isn't there something in your book about building a house on sand instead of proper foundations?
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