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Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution

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Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
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Re: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:42 am (This post was last modified: October 4, 2013 at 9:43 am by TheBeardedDude.)
You're convinced? Please show me how they are necessarily more "upward evolved" than the primitive forms.
You're switching terms too. Do you equate "advanced" with "upward evolution" and if so, what's the difference in the 2 terms?
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:44 am
(October 4, 2013 at 9:42 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: You're convinced? Please show me how they are necessarily more "upward evolved" than the primitive forms.

So you think that mankind is not more advanced than a ape.

You believe that a chimp or mankind is not more advanced than a amphibian.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:44 am
(October 4, 2013 at 9:42 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 4, 2013 at 9:38 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: How so? Please demonstrate how the primitive archaea that are still around are more advanced than their ancestors.
Is it "upward evolution" when traits are lost? Like say, sight in bats?

If the primitive archaea are still around, does that disprove evolution?

No. Why would it?
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Re: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:44 am
No. The primitive forms are still around. Chemosynthesizers are still pumping away in oxygen-starved environments where the aerobes can't survive.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:45 am
(October 4, 2013 at 9:44 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote: No. The primitive forms are still around. Chemosynthesizers are still pumping away in oxygen-starved environments where the aerobes can't survive.

If they are the same as the originals that may disprove the theory of evolution.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:46 am
Evolutionary molecular genetics is my field, Grace. Almost everything in the OP is incorrect or warped. I know better than to address it because you won't listen, but I'll offer: on the off chance you'd like to learn something, let me know.
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Re: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:46 am (This post was last modified: October 4, 2013 at 9:48 am by TheBeardedDude.)
An ape*

No, I don't. We have developed society and civilization in a way that they have not. And the evolution of our brains differs, but we are all animals surviving in our own way.

If all humans died out, all other life would carry on fine. If just one group (bugs let's say) died out, we'd be gone in less than a year.
Please explain how that makes sense to you.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:49 am
(October 4, 2013 at 9:46 am)Zazzy Wrote: Evolutionary molecular genetics is my field, Grace. Almost everything in the OP is incorrect or warped. I know better than to address it because you won't listen, but I'll offer: on the off chance you'd like to learn something, let me know.

In origins, the establishment is blinded by a false assumption of No God.

Please give specifies.
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Re: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:51 am
Just to preemptively shutdown what point you think you might be trying to make, stasis in the biological world means a group experiences little to no change over long stretches of geologic time because they are adapted well enough to their environment and selection pressures are low enough and population high enough, that change does not occur.

There are no selection pressures on some of the most primitive organisms because they live in areas where competition is low and resources are high.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 4, 2013 at 9:51 am (This post was last modified: October 4, 2013 at 9:52 am by Airyaman.)
(October 4, 2013 at 9:49 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: In origins, the establishment is blinded by a false assumption of No God.

Please give specifies.

What does evolution have to do with any god?
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