Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution

[Crossless2.0]

Who ever said they did?

Oh, and I'm still waiting for one shred of evidence of Yahweh's existence.

The life forms that you cannot explain where they came from.

I see. You have nothing. No surprise.

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

I'm afraid they do.

Miller-Yurey experiment produced racemic mixture of amino acids. Life does not have racemic mixture of amino acids.

Abiogenesis has never been observed.

[Kayenneh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bd3Ch8ME50

Just shut up and watch.

Seriously, I think I have to call poe on this one... no one is this willfully ignorant. I mean, really.

Until the OP answers two questions:

1. What type of education do you have?
2. What is a "kind"?

... I think we should completely ignore him/her. It's too infuriating otherwise, don't you think?

Yeah, I'm calling poe too.

[Bad Writer]

I'm afraid they do.

Miller-Yurey experiment produced racemic mixture of amino acids. Life does not have racemic mixture of amino acids.

Abiogenesis has never been observed.

Correction: the abiogenesis that you are looking for (how life initially began on this planet) has never been observed. Abiogenesis, however, has indeed been observed, even if the scale of this observation was/is limited. To say abiogenesis is wrong is to ignore the progress made towards demonstrating its actuality.

[Cyberman]

STI, please revisit my post; I added material in edit which you will have missed.

[Minimalist]

No it wasn't controlled at all; that was the whole point. They set up essentially a reconstruction based on what was known of the primitive Earth atmospheric conditions, then let the experiment run itself. Any outside interference would totally invalidate the test.

That they managed to produce any amino acids at all, totally spontaneously, is exactly the sort of thing you have been saying is impossible all along.

Now, you can do what you're going to and stick your fingers in your ears and scream "Baby Jesus make the bad thoughts go away!" but you won't change the facts.

There was something that made sparks. There was a trap to remove product as it was being made. The gasses used in the experiment were meant to produce product. Nobody knows what the gas composition of early earth was. That is just an assumption.

It was controlled.

I never said that amino acids could not be produced.

I said that they do not form long chains on their own of the order of 100,000 amino acids simultaneously.

Surely, even a cement head like you understands that no one gives a flying fuck what you say?

Do you seriously think that your particular god created all life 6,000* years ago in the middle east?

Yes or no.


*You can quibble about the time if you aren't locked into bishop ussher's computations.

[Zazzy]

Grace, why are you talking about abiogenesis in your "mutations" thread? You already have an abiogenesis thread. Abiogenesis and evolution are separate, though related, fields. Your first fundamental misunderstanding is to conflate these. I suspect you are ignoring me because of my credentials. Are you going to listen, or are you going to keep repeating yourself erroneously on a topic that is not relevant to your own OP?

[Captain Colostomy]

If it wasn't for science(and science's retarded handmaiden, engineering :p), this spectacle wouldn't even be occurring. It's rather sad to see someone comfortably utilizing modern technology to espouse mythical stone age understanding. I guess science overall isn't a problem when contrivances for living are developed. It's these pesky god denying branches that need to be eradicated.

Oy vey.

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

Miller-Yurey experiment produced racemic mixture of amino acids. Life does not have racemic mixture of amino acids.

Abiogenesis has never been observed.

Correction: the abiogenesis that you are looking for (how life initially began on this planet) has never been observed. Abiogenesis, however, has indeed been observed, even if the scale of this observation was/is limited. To say abiogenesis is wrong is to ignore the progress made towards demonstrating its actuality.

So life has been produced and it is evolving.

Where?

[Something completely different]

Is it possible to ask a mod to close a thread when that thread serves no other purpose than the mental masturbation of a willfully ignorant sod?