Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution

[Esquilax]

It does however prevent evolution from changing one kind of creature into another.

That also falsifies atheistic origin science.

Hell, considering as you still haven't provided a scientific source that says this is what evolution is, why should we take you seriously? You're clearly just making things up as you go along, with no interest or knowledge as to the real science involved.

It's been days: where's your reference for this?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

What utter nonsense.

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How so? Please demonstrate how the primitive archaea that are still around are more advanced than their ancestors.

If the first one was more advanced than current bacteria, the abiogenesis is really preposterous.

I am almost positive that almost all scientist would agree that the primitive bacteria was not as advanced as the current bacteria.

Yes, and I'm sure you talk to men in white lab coats all the time from your padded cell.

[Zazzy]

It does however prevent evolution from changing one kind of creature into another.

That also falsifies atheistic origin science.

Hell, considering as you still haven't provided a scientific source that says this is what evolution is, why should we take you seriously? You're clearly just making things up as you go along, with no interest or knowledge as to the real science involved.

It's been days: where's your reference for this?

Grace is not listening. Grace, I'll say it again- you are fundamentally misunderstanding what evolution is. You are STILL setting up the same strawman you were 30 pages ago, despite being told by numerous people that you are arguing against something that no scientist is claiming. Repeating the same strawman over and over does not make it truer. Does Jesus approve of lying?

[Psykhronic]

Grace - if you do not know what you are arguing against, stop arguing against it.

[Kayenneh]

Since creationists can't seem to grasp the immense time span it takes for phyletic gradualism to "change one kind of creature into another", look no further than polyploidy. Polyploidy occurs when a non-disjunction in meiosis results in offspring with a different number of homologous chromosomes to the parent - and instantaneous speciation. You have polyploidy to thank for wheat products such as bread.

Pearls before uneducated swine, Sej..

[Brian37]

I corrected you on these points on the first page of this thread.

at least 30 mutations per generation

Far more than that: ~1.1×10−8 per site per generation. Your figures are so far out, they're laughable. You demonstrate, once again, that you are knowledgeless, uneducated and unfit to hold this discussion.

mutations are errors

Even Wikipedia knows more than you: "In genetics, a mutation is a change of the nucleotide sequence of the genome of an organism, virus, or extrachromosomal genetic element. Mutations result from unrepaired damage to DNA or to RNA genomes (typically caused by radiation or chemical mutagens), errors in the process of replication, or from the insertion or deletion of segments of DNA by mobile genetic elements. Mutations may or may not produce discernible changes in the observable characteristics (phenotype) of an organism. Mutations play a part in both normal and abnormal biological processes including: evolution, cancer, and the development of the immune system."



Everything you've posted in this thread are lies. You ARE aware of god's laws regarding falsehood, aren't you? The 9th Commandment? Ringing any bells?

Paul/Saul, somewhere in that comic book says lying is ok as long as you do it for his Poofdaddy's glory.

[Whateverist]

Paul/Saul, somewhere in that comic book says lying is ok as long as you do it for his Poofdaddy's glory.

Which pretty much tells you the book is only for those for whom the truth is irrelevant.

[Brian37]

"Funny how the believer will attack science then hypocritically at the same time try to use it to prop up their "Poofdaddy"."

When you think of how reliant on science they are each and every day the hypocrisy level is astonishing. This is the same science that wakes them up in the morning to get out of the bed science developed the materials for, to wash their teeth in water from a tap in their house (science both plumbing and drainage) using toothpaste (science) to wash their face with soap (science) dry their face with a towel (science) then go into the kitchen and make a coffee (science).......and we haven't even mentioned the internet, phones, tablets, cars, radios, TV's, medicine, dish washers, washing machines, washing powders, sun protection creams, condoms, GPS, mobile data plans, electricity, traffic control systems, airports, trains,.....

In fact - its pretty much impossible to think of a single aspect of your life that doesn't rely in some way on the developments science has enabled.

All of this - they gleefully accept - but as soon as something science says contradicts a 2000 year old book written by goat-herders, translated, assembled, re-assembled and edited over centuries by persons unknown, as soon as that happens suddenly science is wrong.

When my co-workers listen to gospel music, expecting me to bite my toungue, these same morons are working under the invention of an atheist(EDISON), and have computers with Windows invented by AN ATHEIST, and facebook pages INVENTED BY AN AHTEIST.

And it's also funny that their all powerful god would need a fucking radio to get his message out. The comic book by itself needs help?

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It does not help because all individuals are receiving mutations.

It does however prevent evolution from changing one kind of creature into another.

That also falsifies atheistic origin science.

... what?

Exactly, if we say the moon is not made of cheese, like idiots, the believer uses "atheist" as a slur falsely to avoid the fact that the moon still is not made of cheese.

Sorry believers, atheists are not evil for merely stating facts. It is not our fault someone sold you a broken and outright absurd concept. It is not our fault you wallow in superstition and do not understand ALL GOD CLAIMS are human inventions.

The moon is not made of cheese. Evolution is fact. And there are no "Poofdaddies". It was understandable when humans didn't know any better, but you look stupid now in spite of facts still insisting on Santa for adults.

[max-greece]

Of course Hypocrisy isn't a one way street. I quite like gospel music from time to time - although I tend to ignore the lyrics.

Then there's Bach, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Verdi, Rossini.....

Basically all of them were either employed by the Church or put biblical stories to music, or both.

Can't have it all.

And lets not talk about art.....

[downbeatplumb]

I quite like gospel music from time to time

You sick bastard.hock: