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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:14 am
(October 8, 2013 at 12:20 pm)Chas Wrote: (October 8, 2013 at 11:57 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: When the people defining terms are blinded by the already proven false assumption of No God, why would I be bound by there false conclusions and non logical thinking.
Not assuming that there is a god is not the same as assuming there isn't a god.
Science makes neither assumption.
You are an atheist.
What exactly do you believe?
There is absolutely no God?
You are confident that there is no God, but it is possible?
You just do not know?
If this does not cover the choices, please be specific about what you believe.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:18 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:14 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: You are an atheist.
What exactly do you believe?
There is absolutely no God?
You are confident that there is no God, but it is possible?
You just do not know?
If this does not cover the choices, please be specific about what you believe.
You have been told what an atheist is 100 times already. Stop lying. I will say it again because you seem to have a very selective memory. An atheist is anyone who lacks the belief in gods, they reject theist claims of gods. We do not believe gods exist. This is not in any way a claim that gods don't exist. How are you not understanding this?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:21 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:18 am)Rationalman Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 9:14 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: You are an atheist.
What exactly do you believe?
There is absolutely no God?
You are confident that there is no God, but it is possible?
You just do not know?
If this does not cover the choices, please be specific about what you believe.
You have been told what an atheist is 100 times already. Stop lying. I will say it again because you seem to have a very selective memory. An atheist is anyone who lacks the belief in gods, they reject theist claims of gods. We do not believe gods exist. This is not in any way a claim that gods don't exist. How are you not understanding this?
So you do not believe that gods exist.
But you are not making a claim that gods don't exist.
So it is possible that you are wrong?
I believe that God Almighty of the Holy Bible exists.
And I am making that claim.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:23 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:21 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: So you do not believe that gods exist.
But you are not making a claim that gods don't exist.
So it is possible that you are wrong? Yes it is possible that we are wrong, it is also possible that you are wrong. See how that gets us nowhere?
(October 10, 2013 at 9:21 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I believe that God Almighty of the Holy Bible exists.
And I am making that claim.
Then prove your claim
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:25 am
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(October 10, 2013 at 9:21 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 9:18 am)Rationalman Wrote: You have been told what an atheist is 100 times already. Stop lying. I will say it again because you seem to have a very selective memory. An atheist is anyone who lacks the belief in gods, they reject theist claims of gods. We do not believe gods exist. This is not in any way a claim that gods don't exist. How are you not understanding this?
So you do not believe that gods exist.
But you are not making a claim that gods don't exist.
So it is possible that you are wrong?
I believe that God Almighty of the Holy Bible exists.
And I am making that claim.
And you have never presented any evidence for that claim.
I have no belief in any gods because there is no evidence for their existence.
Do you wish to present evidence of your claim? I do not require proof, simply evidence.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:26 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:23 am)Rationalman Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 9:21 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: So you do not believe that gods exist.
But you are not making a claim that gods don't exist.
So it is possible that you are wrong? Yes it is possible that we are wrong, it is also possible that you are wrong. See how that gets us nowhere?
(October 10, 2013 at 9:21 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I believe that God Almighty of the Holy Bible exists.
And I am making that claim.
Then prove your claim
But the universe does exist, life forms of vast complexity does exist, and the universe is governed by a set of natural laws. So that must be explained.
The topics I have posted prove atheistic origin science false.
What is left then?
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:29 am
Your half baked ramblings have proven nothing except your willful ignorance of all things scientific and your appalling debating skills
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:32 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:29 am)Rationalman Wrote: Your half baked ramblings have proven nothing except your willful ignorance of all things scientific and your appalling debating skills
Debate rule 101 shows you have no facts.
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:42 am
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2013 at 9:44 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(October 10, 2013 at 9:26 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: But the universe does exist, life forms of vast complexity does exist, and the universe is governed by a set of natural laws. So that must be explained.
The topics I have posted prove atheistic origin science false.
What is left then?
No.
You've made an argument from ignorance fallacy. You assume a god where there is no evidence to back up that assumption. That's the only thing you've proven. That, and you're completely insane.
You want a debate on the existance of your god? You believe that you've proven all science to be wrong? fine. Debate one of us, 1 v 1, and we'll see if you've got the cajones to go through with it. Or forever remain a quack. It doesn't bother any of us. 
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RE: Mutations disprove the theory of upward evolution
October 10, 2013 at 9:43 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:32 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Debate rule 101 shows you have no facts.
Um, Grace, are you afraid of mirrors? Because if you're not, I may have a recommendation...
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