Abiogenesis is impossible

[ThomM]

This. Snowy has a problem with abiogenesis only because it doesn't literally describe god playing in a sandbox, molding a man out of clay, and breathing in his face before placing him in the garden of Eden.

In his "mind" scientists are scared to present this "theory" because of a worldwide "conspiracy" that will pull their funding if they stop doing science and replace theory and experimentation with hand scrawled "Dunno GodDidIt" notes.

People tend to get so wrapped up in the "Garden of Eden" story that they overlook the fact that the Bible says where it was and even when it existed. I can understand casual Bible readers missing it but even preachers and priests overlook it. So if the God character actually made a man from common field dirt and then a woman from the man's rib it was on a planet in a galaxy far, far, far away. It didn't happen on this one.

There are books that tell us all about the life of James Bond - and Harry Potter - And Sherlock Holmes TOO.

The bible is NOT a historical refererence - it is a book of religious MYTH and we KNOW that some things in the bible are simply NOT TRUE - example - there was NO worldwide flood as described in the bible.

And sorry - but the majority of xtian sects - representing over 75% of the xtians in the world - have already accepted evolution. Unlike the small sects made up of stupid people, the larger sects cannot risk another round of being wrong - like that of the earth being the rigid center of the Universe - which it is also not.

Yes - you are right - what is said in the bible - "DIDN'T HAPPEN"

[RobbyPants]

"iterative probability" - saw you posted it and understand it. now, should I call a press conference?

Based on your response, you seem to barely grasp that it has something to do with "big numbers"... and that's about where it ends. The rest was a complete non sequitur.

Talking about things you don't understand isn't doing anything to further your cause, unless you're just trying to wait everyone out until they quit talking to you in frustration.

[Mister Agenda]

it goes like this: when there is a high level of coincidences that makes earth life suitable, those that are committed to the presupposition of no-design proceed to make some very metaphysical speculation. you even have a post in cybspace that embraces panspermia. anyone seen any ufo's lately? if you have, please keep it to yourself.

It's not much of a coincidence in a galaxy with millions of potentially habitable planets, that at least one of them would develop life, and that's witthout considering that there are billions of other galaxies. We don't need UFOs to know this, just excellent telescopes. On this scale, life could be inevitable, yet wherever it arose, to locals who only thought about it superficially, it would seem amazing luck was involved. Yet you never see a lottery winner returning the ticket because the odds against them winning are so unbelievably high...when there's money involved, they get that enough people buy tickets, somebody is going to win.

[ThomM]

[Mister Agenda]

poor guy is suffering so from such big, big numbers "but there are a lot of planets in the universe, snowtracks", "if we take into account the countless planets". first of all dufus, there are an estimated 10^82 atoms in the observable universe so you know the planets are less right?

There are fewer planets than atoms in the universe? Wow, any more breaking news, oh revelator?

and did you know that the The Fermi Paradox has you flat on the ground and gasping for air?

Gee, since no one was claiming there are any galactic empires out there, that doesn't seem to be a problem. Maybe the average number of technological civilizations per galaxy is one in ten. Maybe no one can go faster than the speed of light. Fermi's paradox is only a paradox is you assume there should be other civilizations able to reach us. Why would someone assume that? Life could be as common as rocky, watery planets the right size-ish, and technological civilizations could still be incredibly rare. Since we are ignorant of the actual state of affairs regarding the frequency of life on other planets, and how often that life leads to sapience, we can draw no conclusions from our ignorance except that there don't seem to be any alien civilizations close enough for us to detect at this time with our current instrumentation.

and do you believe in the galactic police force charged with painting over the graffitti left by other civilizations cited by the site?

You must find our position very convincing if you have to put this kind of crap in our mouths to pretend that we arent'.

[Jackalope]

did you know The Fermi Paradox has you flat on the ground and gasping for air?

Did you know that there are in excess of two dozen hypothetical answers for the Fermi Paradox, and that there are several assumptions that form the inputs to the paradox who's actual values are currently unknown?

You behave as if it's some huge intractable, impossible problem. It isn't, not for anyone. It's an interesting question that we don't have a definitive answer for, yet.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

[Freedom of thought]

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Even the Bible teaches evolution. So why do some people still have trouble accepting evolution?

Where does it teach that?

The Protestants took this out of the KJV.

Wisdom 19:18-20 (CEB) = "18 If we are careful to observe events, we can see just how the elements of the universe are transformed. It’s the same transformation that happens when someone changes the sounds that a harp makes by changing the key while continuing to play the same melody. 19 In this way, land animals were changed into underwater creatures, while animals that swam in the waters now moved onto the land. 20 Fire was able to burn on the open water, while water forgot that it was supposed to put fire out."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=CEB

[ThomM]