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Abiogenesis is impossible
#21
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:24 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: So where does the theory of evolution start with, the present world?

How can it claim that evolution explains all the different species if it cannot account fro the first cell.

The Theory of Evolution starts with self-replication, variance, and selection.

It does not strictly include how replicators came about.

Why is that concept so difficult for you?
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#22
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm)Chas Wrote:
(October 4, 2013 at 12:24 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: So where does the theory of evolution start with, the present world?

How can it claim that evolution explains all the different species if it cannot account fro the first cell.

The Theory of Evolution starts with self-replication, variance, and selection.

It does not strictly include how replicators came about.

Why is that concept so difficult for you?

That is the great con.

You must answer how it came about.

You have no answer. Abiogenesis is impossible.
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#23
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
Quote:Why is that concept so difficult for you?

Been reading creationist bullshit for too long. Fucks up the parts of the brain dealing with understanding anything beyond a bible verse!
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#24
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:24 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: So where does the theory of evolution start with, the present world?

It starts with extant life. How amusing, that you've declared the process impossible before you know what it is.

Oh, did I say amusing? I meant completely infuriating.

Quote:How can it claim that evolution explains all the different species if it cannot account fro the first cell.

Evolution is a study of population genetics: how can you study that without a population to have genetics?
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#25
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:34 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: You have no answer. Abiogenesis is impossible.

How do you know? stop flatly asserting things. You are a real sad example of religious indoctrination
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#26
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:36 pm)Rationalman Wrote:
(October 4, 2013 at 12:34 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: You have no answer. Abiogenesis is impossible.

How do you know? stop flatly asserting things. You are a real sad example of religious indoctrination

So you cannot say that there is no God.
That is flat out asserting things.
You cannot say that abiogenesis is not impossible.
That is flat out asserting things.
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#27
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:34 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:
(October 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm)Chas Wrote: The Theory of Evolution starts with self-replication, variance, and selection.

It does not strictly include how replicators came about.

Why is that concept so difficult for you?

That is the great con.

You must answer how it came about.

You have no answer. Abiogenesis is impossible.

A con? Really? Let's say a god created the first simple organism then stepped back and let evolution take over. Would you accept that?

P.S. You stating that abiogenesis is impossible doesn't make it impossible. No matter how many times you say it.
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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#28
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:37 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: So you cannot say that there is no God.

NOBODY IS SAYING THAT.

Quote:You cannot say that abiogenesis is not impossible.
That is flat out asserting things.

Right, so where does the evidence lead? Do you have any?
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#29
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:34 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: That is the great con.

You must answer how it came about.

You have no answer. Abiogenesis is impossible.

So, how did your God come about?
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#30
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 4, 2013 at 12:37 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: So you cannot say that there is no God.
That is flat out asserting things.
You cannot say that abiogenesis is not impossible.
That is flat out asserting things.

What the fuck is wrong with you?
I have never said, there is no god. I (and the majority of atheists) don't believe a god exists. That is not the same as claiming that it doesn't.
And even if we did claim that god doesn't exist. It wouldn't be a flat assertion at all. All the evidence points to a universe that doesn't need a god to create it.

And no, saying abiogenesis is not impossible is also not a flat assertion. You may want to look up the lab experiments that have been going on to do with that. But you won't because you are an arrogant, ignorant, pathetic excuse for a human being.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

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