RE: Russia halts adoptions to Sweden over gay nuptials
October 9, 2013 at 2:16 am
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2013 at 2:19 am by freedomfromforum.)
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Russia halts adoptions to Sweden over gay nuptials
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RE: Russia halts adoptions to Sweden over gay nuptials
October 9, 2013 at 2:16 am
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2013 at 2:19 am by freedomfromforum.)
EDIT: Post removed - because of certain nefarious member's tendencies.
I've read all the replies, and it seems that many people pointed out to the "backwardness" of Russia-one that was not caused by being anti-homosexual, but by an ideology that have denounced every other ideology as being reactionary and declared themselves as the sole "progressive" form of thought on earth. Communism.
However with its death, people began to cherish their traditional values without the fear of persecution. In the west, those who cherish their traditional values are not persecuted by authorities, but are criticized by the so-called liberal intellectuals, descendants of the same form of thought that have discarded the economic aspects of marxism, but retained its anti-cultural and anti-national aspects. Those are the ones that not only Putin, but I and a lot of nationalists from many different countries detest. Although I have voiced my doubts about Putin, I think that his actions should rather make Sweden think about what its doing. Why not halt adoptions to..say, the Netherlands or Germany? Well, mostly because Sweden obviously went to far in its liberal madness. Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti? (October 9, 2013 at 5:14 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I've read all the replies, and it seems that many people pointed out to the "backwardness" of Russia-one that was not caused by being anti-homosexual, but by an ideology that have denounced every other ideology as being reactionary and declared themselves as the sole "progressive" form of thought on earth. Communism. What you call 'liberal madness', many of us call enlightenment. Putin is a thug and a regressive one. He is doing Mother Russia no favors.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Putin needs to die in a fire.
(October 9, 2013 at 9:18 am)Chas Wrote:Well, sure, Putin might be a "thug" as you say, and a pragmatist, though not really regressive. I believe its you who wish to regress, and bring humanity back to the ancient times, where sexual morality was unknown, sexuality was practiced at very young ages, and vice such as intoxicants and gambling ran rampart. Your enlightenment does not go beyond praising egoism and excessive individualism.(October 9, 2013 at 5:14 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I've read all the replies, and it seems that many people pointed out to the "backwardness" of Russia-one that was not caused by being anti-homosexual, but by an ideology that have denounced every other ideology as being reactionary and declared themselves as the sole "progressive" form of thought on earth. Communism. Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti? (October 9, 2013 at 9:29 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:(October 9, 2013 at 9:18 am)Chas Wrote: What you call 'liberal madness', many of us call enlightenment.Well, sure, Putin might be a "thug" as you say, and a pragmatist, though not really regressive. I believe its you who wish to regress, and bring humanity back to the ancient times, where sexual morality was unknown, sexuality was practiced at very young ages, and vice such as intoxicants and gambling ran rampart. Your enlightenment does not go beyond praising egoism and excessive individualism. What, precisely, is "excessive individualism"? And it may well be that the more free a society is about sex, the more peaceful it is. There is much evidence to support that.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method. RE: Russia halts adoptions to Sweden over gay nuptials
October 9, 2013 at 11:58 am
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2013 at 11:58 am by kılıç_mehmet.)
(October 9, 2013 at 10:08 am)Chas Wrote:(October 9, 2013 at 9:29 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, sure, Putin might be a "thug" as you say, and a pragmatist, though not really regressive. I believe its you who wish to regress, and bring humanity back to the ancient times, where sexual morality was unknown, sexuality was practiced at very young ages, and vice such as intoxicants and gambling ran rampart. Your enlightenment does not go beyond praising egoism and excessive individualism. What, you ask. Excessive individualism preaches the detachment of the individual from society, and social laws. It preaches that the world revolves around the individual, and society must exist only to serve the individual, rather than the reverse. So, if there are marginal groups amongst society, they force society to accept them, instead of trying to gain social acceptance, or, actually try to be more in harmony with society. Coming to the issue of sexual minorities, we can see today that we have here an artificially created minority that is pushing their own agenda over the general public, and its institutions. The more open a society is about sex, the more every form of sexual deviancy runs rampart. Not only that, but today, we see that sex has become what I'd call...nothing more than a tool of capitalism to sell its products. And that in itself is the perpetrating factor of sexual immorality. It wants people to step over their cultures, their traditions, as to be able use the best marketing tool ever conceived. And indeed, moral standards have fallen so much, that people view fidelity as unnecessary, and virginity as something to be ashamed of. None of the values that have created social harmony and a degree of decency within public are now applicable, thanks to this "openness" about sex. Creating a peaceful society does not automatically mean that moral values such as fidelity and decency should be abolished. However again, marginal groups with their entitlement mentality, think that their anti-culture movement should dictate how society should work. This of course, creates tension, because the majority obviously rejects this attack on their sacred values. Russia is a country where the majority responds to such attacks with physical force, and Putin does what he has to in order to keep the marginals who disturb the peace out of the streets. Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti?
I don't know why people like putin are so obsessed with anything homo related...seriously. Get a new tune.
(October 10, 2013 at 7:39 pm)dgirl1986 Wrote: I don't know why people like putin are so obsessed with anything homo related...seriously. Get a new tune. Well, because the liberals are obsessed with anything homo related. They want marriage, adoption and etc. Every action meets with a reaction. Before them gay-right activists came up with the idea of opening "marriage and child raising" to homosexuals, people were content with the existence of these people, as they generally confined themselves and their behavior behind four walls. Outside, they were like normal people, and were not considered to be major eyesores. Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti? |
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