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What do Theists Think About Atheists?
RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
Honestly, given the guy's lack of grasp on decent syntax, it could've been either one; but given his thing was more misspelling words instead of shorthanding them, I take it to "our." I don't know why he would say it to mean "your" when he was talking in description of Christians, and addressing an array of atheists, who are not adversely affected by secular laws, so I can readily dismiss any ambiguity about what he meant, and it's a poor point to try to hold to.

Both things you stated were things that can affect people based on religious grounds, and that which are perceptively "suppressed" by those issues are distinctly talmudic, biblical, and quranic based. Homosexuality is a sin according to the OT. Orthodox Judaism, virtually all Christian denominations, and Islam in general view homosexuality as a sin. Ergo the idea of a secular institution teaching children that there is no evidence that homosexuality is bad and that it's just as perfectly fine as heterosexuality will obviously chafe at people for religious reasons. I can't see why you would otherwise object to it, unless you are just simply homophobic. I have to wonder why you would be so, if not on religious grounds. It's not like people having sex with others of their gender has caused you any harm. Or, maybe you simply wished to tell them about it yourself for the same purposes as what is being taught by the school. Again, I don't see what the big deal is here, either, as you can still tell them your views.

As for vaccination, that goes against what some religions teach as well. Off the top of my head is the Church of Jesus Christ, Scientist (perhaps the most fucking hilariously ironic title for a church ever), which pretty much teaches that medicine is bad and that all you need is prayer and Jesus will heal you...which, of course, is bullshit, bullshit, and bullshit, respectively. The vaccine mentioned is, as far as I know, optional as opposed to mandatory, due to the fact it is not sufficiently effective enough for it to be a mandatory vaccine.

As usual, I'm totally bemused by what point you're trying to drive at, here. If it isn't religion, then what is it? I admit, it's possible I might've missed a post or two, but I'm fairly certain I've kept a read on them since my first post to this thread. See, the request was "name one freedom being taken away. One." You've stated you're not a Christian before, and I believe you, but the context of the request was that it was being addressed to someone who was saying their freedoms were being oppressed or taken away by secular legislation.

There is a clear linking between the original statement and the reply which requested an example, unmuddied by any form of continually-evolving translations or chronological dating to put it out of its intended context. I get the impression you are trying to impart the importance of taking things into context and accounting for words that are or are not present for sake of linguistic simplicity within a written format, to demonstrate the importance of not taking things the abrahamic religious texts literally, and it's certainly a clever way of establishing an axiom, and also indeed a very good point; the theistic texts of those religions should always be examined for the context of time and stanza.

But this is also a too-subtle way of going about it if this is your intention, and loses weight due to the fact that the language with which the statement and subsequent reply has not aged or evolved and the past tendencies of the one who made the original claim are shown to be responsible for the missing letters. Again, it's also a good point that one word can mean two or more and that these must be considered when understanding context...but in this case, the context is actually very, very clear.

Basically, if that is the underlying point you are trying to drive at, it's a pretty valid one, and is actually agreed upon by many critics of religion. But if it is your underlying point, and you wish to get it across, it might be a better idea to state it as such, since that topic isn't what people are in the process of discussing and ergo the likelihood of others to get it are greatly diminished and it only serves to frustrate others rather than helping them understand something, and the more that happens [and it happens a lot, man] the less likely people are going to be to understand that point.
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
Catty is a christian...at least he says so. He mentioned it IIRC earlier tonight.
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
(October 30, 2013 at 12:44 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: ...You've stated you're not a Christian before, and I believe you, ...

You know, this shit has got to stop man. Prove this statement or fuck off.
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
How about you address the rest of what I said instead of perhaps the most inconsequential thing that I said that may or may not be wrong in that post, hm?

An amusingly angry and vehement reply to what was otherwise quite reasonable and even-tempered one of my own.
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
(October 30, 2013 at 1:57 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: How about you address the rest of what I said instead of perhaps the most inconsequential thing that I said that may or may not be wrong in that post, hm?

Because you're a liar. Been proven to be a liar and you refuse to correct that issue. Seriously man, just put that lie in your sig like you did the other and fuck off.
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
How about you address the rest of what I said and stop whining about me misremembering something? I thought you've said you weren't a Christian before. If I am wrong, eh, my apologies. I mean, I DID just admit I was wrong...which seems rather corrective. And I removed the (thought-to-be paraphrase) quote because I stopped being sure of the mentioning of your wife and a divorce.

So, no, I will not fuck off. Awfully testy lately, aren't ya?
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
(October 30, 2013 at 2:18 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: How about you address the rest of what I said and stop whining about me misremembering something? I thought you've said you weren't a Christian before. If I am wrong, eh, my apologies. I mean, I DID just admit I was wrong...which seems rather corrective. And I removed the (thought-to-be paraphrase) quote because I stopped being sure of the mentioning of your wife and a divorce.

So, no, I will not fuck off. Awfully testy lately, aren't ya?

I know I said to fuck off, but this opportunity is just too good to pass up.
Misremembering? I spoke to you directly regarding this issue, so my thinking is that you're fucking lying. Undecided
"If I am wrong? - lol, prove your statement or correct it, don't try playing inncocent.
"Stopped being sure"? You're deceptive tactics don't fool me.

Testy? Not at all, just blunt.

Now you may fuck off.
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
No, not blunt, just evasive and immature. Nothing new, there. I find it amusing that I apologized if I was wrong about something regarding your religious views, you immediately launch into diatribe, which includes you saying "prove your statement or correct it." I just did correct it, you retard. However, I retract my apology; if you're not mature enough to accept an apology offered in the event I am incorrect (and since you say I am, then the apology was valid and like a petulant child you smacked it out of my hand), then you're not worth me offering it. As for proving statements, how about you prove to me that you spoke to me directly about this issue? Because I sincerely and truly do not remember this happening. You need not accept my apology, and it's no skin off my back if the corrective actions I have taken in the past and have just shown are not enough to display I am not a liar to your paranoid ass.

Were I a liar, I'd maintain what was in my signature while knowing it was not true as opposed to removing it and saying what the subject of it was. I would continue to accuse you of saying you were not a Christian while deliberately knowing otherwise as opposed to apologizing if I'm wrong (and until you can provide me with a link showing this addressing I will continue to remain ambiguous on whether or not I was previously informed, because I don't fucking remember shit from months if not a year ago that might have been told to me by someone on the internet amidst the thousands of other posts I've made so far on a forum where I discuss everything from 9/11 demolition conspiracy theory, food, music, national politics, religion, to social issues, life issues of myself and others and video games) and...well you've never specified any other instances where I've supposedly lied, so until you can point those out I can't really retract them. You've accused me of being a liar constantly without ever specifying the many, many times I must have done so to warrant being called one, so I reject your accusation. Finally, I am not beholden to your passive-aggressive bullshit; I will fuck off if you get on your knees and suck my balls.

Now quit your typical evasive bullshit and address the post like a mature adult, or continue throwing smokescreens and displaying how utterly incapable you are at rational discourse. You can call me a liar all you'd like, but for each time you claim I have, everyone who has tried to discuss something with you, myself included, has witnessed dozens of instances of your sheer cowardice.

So. Your lips on my nuts to get me to go away, act like an adult who is worth discussion so we can stop this pointless pissing contest and talk about something interesting, or continue being a coward, coward.
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
Facepalm
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RE: What do Theists Think About Atheists?
Yeah. That's what I thought.

Cowards need to stop getting into it with their intellectual superiors if they're just gonna run at the first sign of being backed into a corner. Stand your fucking ground or shut the fuck up.
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