1.8M-year-old skull gives glimpse of our evolution

[John V]

http://apnews.excite.com/article/2013101...5VAG0.html

DMANISI, Georgia (AP) - The discovery of a 1.8-million-year-old skull of a human ancestor buried under a medieval Georgian village provides a vivid picture of early evolution and indicates our family tree may have fewer branches than some believe, scientists say.

The fossil is the most complete pre-human skull uncovered. With other partial remains previously found at the rural site, it gives researchers the earliest evidence of human ancestors moving out of Africa and spreading north to the rest of the world, according to a study published Thursday in the journal Science.

Let the creatards shriek.

Shriek over what? The article points out that paleontology is largely guesswork, without even operational definitions for a species.

For years, some scientists have said humans evolved from only one or two species, much like a tree branches out from a trunk, while others say the process was more like a bush with several offshoots that went nowhere.

Even bush-favoring scientists say these findings show one single species nearly 2 million years ago at the former Soviet republic site. But they disagree that the same conclusion can be said for bones found elsewhere, such as Africa. However, Lordkipanidze and colleagues point out that the skulls found in Georgia are different sizes but are considered to be the same species. So, they reason, it's likely the various skulls found in different places and times in Africa may not be different species, but variations in one species.

To see how a species can vary, just look in the mirror, they said.

"Danny DeVito, Michael Jordan and Shaquille O'Neal are the same species," Lordkipanidze said.

[Minimalist]

Shriek over what? The article points out that paleontology is largely guesswork, without even operational definitions for a species.

And creationism is totally horseshit....dreamed up by brain dead half wits with an old book. Fuck off, sonny. I'm in no mood for you today.

[*Deidre*]

http://apnews.excite.com/article/2013101...5VAG0.html


Let the creatards shriek.

Shriek over what? The article points out that paleontology is largely guesswork, without even operational definitions for a species.

For years, some scientists have said humans evolved from only one or two species, much like a tree branches out from a trunk, while others say the process was more like a bush with several offshoots that went nowhere.

Even bush-favoring scientists say these findings show one single species nearly 2 million years ago at the former Soviet republic site. But they disagree that the same conclusion can be said for bones found elsewhere, such as Africa. However, Lordkipanidze and colleagues point out that the skulls found in Georgia are different sizes but are considered to be the same species. So, they reason, it's likely the various skulls found in different places and times in Africa may not be different species, but variations in one species.

To see how a species can vary, just look in the mirror, they said.

"Danny DeVito, Michael Jordan and Shaquille O'Neal are the same species," Lordkipanidze said.

As a Christian, if you follow the bible's lineage from Jesus to Adam and Eve, you believe that human beings were created about 7000 years ago. Think we can agree, the fossil they found is older than that. lol And most likely, isn't Adam's or Eve's.

Christianity is riddled with lies. If you wish to believe those lies, that is your choice. But, don't propose that we should believe them too.

So, whatever you are going on about is a moot point, because your entire belief system doesn't permit you to believe that human beings evolved.

[Esquilax]

Shriek over what? The article points out that paleontology is largely guesswork, without even operational definitions for a species.

"Scientists won't loudly demand that they're certain of things, and therefore they aren't! I'm right though, because I'm certain!"

What a stupid thing to say, John.

[Lemonvariable72]

That skulll is fascinating, it definitely looks homo erect us, with the low brain case and huge brow ridge, though being 5 ft tall, that is very short for erectus. I'd check the growth plates in the skull as this maybe a child, as we know turkana boy was roughly the same size and yet was like 7.
Homo erect us adults could easily reach 2 meters
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Giving the timing could this be a homo hablis homo Easter transitional form?

[pocaracas]

Giving the timing could this be a homo hablis homo Easter transitional form?

[Creationist logic] can't be! No transitional fossils have been found... there are none to be found!

[Thor]

[Creationist logic] can't be! No transitional fossils have been found... there are none to be found!

And there are no vestigial organs!

Uh... never mind that there are birds with useless wings, and cavefish with sightless eyes, and we get goosebumps....

[pocaracas]

[Creationist logic] can't be! No transitional fossils have been found... there are none to be found!

And there are no vestigial organs!

Uh... never mind that there are birds with useless wings, and cavefish with sightless eyes, and we get goosebumps....

[Creationist logic] Those are there for a reason... we just haven't figured it out yet. The almighty did everything exactly as he intended.

[Tkcjpii]

Shriek over what? The article points out that paleontology is largely guesswork, without even operational definitions for a species.

As a Christian, if you follow the bible's lineage from Jesus to Adam and Eve, you believe that human beings were created about 7000 years ago. Think we can agree, the fossil they found is older than that. lol And most likely, isn't Adam's or Eve's.

Christianity is riddled with lies. If you wish to believe those lies, that is your choice. But, don't propose that we should believe them too.

So, whatever you are going on about is a moot point, because your entire belief system doesn't permit you to believe that human beings evolved.

Please don't tell Christians what they must believe, dolt. The Church speaks about faith, morals, and God. It's place is not to explain science. Thus, there is room in Christianity for creationism belief, intelligent design, and yes evolution. The bible must not be demanded to be interpreted literally in all it's books. God could have evolved an animal thru millions of years into a final human form. Then he picked the best one, gave him a soul and started humanity. We don't know. Not really important to the church or our salvation.

[Chas]

As a Christian, if you follow the bible's lineage from Jesus to Adam and Eve, you believe that human beings were created about 7000 years ago. Think we can agree, the fossil they found is older than that. lol And most likely, isn't Adam's or Eve's.

Christianity is riddled with lies. If you wish to believe those lies, that is your choice. But, don't propose that we should believe them too.

So, whatever you are going on about is a moot point, because your entire belief system doesn't permit you to believe that human beings evolved.

Please don't tell Christians what they must believe, dolt. The Church speaks about faith, morals, and God. It's place is not to explain science. Thus, there is room in Christianity for creationism belief, intelligent design, and yes evolution. The bible must not be demanded to be interpreted literally in all it's books. God could have evolved an animal thru millions of years into a final human form. Then he picked the best one, gave him a soul and started humanity. We don't know. Not really important to the church or our salvation.

Since there is no evidence of the existence of 'souls', on what do you base this idea?