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Four Scenarios
#11
RE: Four Scenarios
Thank you CC. I sincerely appreciate your input, and I honor your opinions.
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#12
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(October 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Thank you CC. I sincerely appreciate your input, and I honor your opinions.

Is my butt flap open? I swear I feel smoke being blown up my ass.
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#13
RE: Four Scenarios
(October 24, 2013 at 7:52 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Scenario One: I am an atheist. I am in the mall and I see an elderly woman drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill and return it to the woman who dropped it; why?

Scenario Two: I am a Christian. I am in the mall and I see a young man drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill, and instead of returning it to the man who dropped it, I slip it into my pocket; why?

Scenario Three: I am a Christian. A woman cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I honk my horn for a long while and I yell out some choice words; why?

Scenario Four: I am an atheist. A man cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I grip the wheel, muster a smile, and carry on with my journey without angst; why?

Theists and atheists are welcome to contribute. Feel free to respond to any or all scenarios as you are lead. I’m still working out some details of the “moral dilemma“ and I would appreciate any and all input. Thanks.

fff

A rewrite:
1) I am an atheist. I'm in the mall and see an elderly lady drop a 10 dollar bill, I put it with the rest of the money I stole and go buy some meth, singing "Oh Happy Days."

2) I am a Christian. I'm in the mall and see a young man drop a 10 dollar bill, I pick it up and return it to him. After a chat with him I understand he's a struggling student and Give him a 20 dollar bill from my wallet, I leave singing, "Oh Happy Days!"

3) I am a Christian. A woman cuts me off in traffic, I feel a rage grow in me because my children could have been harmed, God reminds me kindness is a virtue and I thank Him an lay off the horn I wanted to so badly blow.

4) I am an atheist. A man cuts me off in traffic, I feel a rage grow in me, because there's no God to remind me of kindness I grip my gun and blow out the man's brain, with no remorse I leave the scene, singing "Oh Happy Days."

Just thought it fair to balance out the two world views.

In reality people do not always respond to things the way they should, I think you've brought the case for "why" we need absolute morale standards. Without them all that is written above is fair game.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#14
RE: Four Scenarios
I smoke meth thanks to people trying to impose absolute moral standards on me.

Well, not really. But I would.
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#15
RE: Four Scenarios
To godschild's statements:

1. Meth is a disgusting, debilitating drug, though I would question if it's worse than christianity, as it seems easier to quit meth. So I don't do that, but also, I would never sing 'oh happy day'.

2. To this man (as to anyone else who did the same) I would say thank you.

3. You realize honking a horn isn't always in anger but to make sure that person is aware of your presence... In my town there's an overwhelming amount of winter visitors. That is, people who are really old and oft times horrible drivers. They don't always realize they're cutting you off, or that the yellow dotted lane next to them is in fact a turning lane so they can please get the fuck out of mine.

4. I don't own a gun, but I have had enough proper training to understand that guns are not toys and never to be used in times of frustration such as that.
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#16
RE: Four Scenarios
(October 24, 2013 at 7:52 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Scenario One: I am an atheist. I am in the mall and I see an elderly woman drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill and return it to the woman who dropped it; why?

Scenario Two: I am a Christian. I am in the mall and I see a young man drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill, and instead of returning it to the man who dropped it, I slip it into my pocket; why?

Scenario Three: I am a Christian. A woman cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I honk my horn for a long while and I yell out some choice words; why?

Scenario Four: I am an atheist. A man cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I grip the wheel, muster a smile, and carry on with my journey without angst; why?

Theists and atheists are welcome to contribute. Feel free to respond to any or all scenarios as you are lead. I’m still working out some details of the “moral dilemma“ and I would appreciate any and all input. Thanks.

fff

Dude, seriously?
You know, I just can't pass up a feed like this.

You ask why a lot. Judging from your scenarios, I'd say the reason "why" is because you are MPD and BPD with some short-term memory issues thrown in for seasoning.
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#17
RE: Four Scenarios
All of your responses are sincerely appreciated. Please keep them coming Smile
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#18
RE: Four Scenarios

Scenario One: I am an atheist. I am in the mall and I see an elderly woman drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill and return it to the woman who dropped it; why?


Because she is my mother and I am only 6 years old. Here mommy. You dropped our money.


Scenario Two: I am a Christian. I am in the mall and I see a young man drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill, and instead of returning it to the man who dropped it, I slip it into my pocket; why?

Because the young man had just stolen my wallet and as he was running off he dropped some of my money.


Scenario Three: I am a Christian. A woman cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I honk my horn for a long while and I yell out some choice words; why?

Because yelling out "God bless you!!!" to your 'enemy' is good therapy.


Scenario Four: I am an atheist. A man cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I grip the wheel, muster a smile, and carry on with my journey without angst; why?

Because you live in Dade County and realise that, unlike you, he may have large calibre hand gun under his seat.
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#19
RE: Four Scenarios
(October 24, 2013 at 11:15 pm)Owlix Wrote: To godschild's statements:

1. Meth is a disgusting, debilitating drug, though I would question if it's worse than christianity, as it seems easier to quit meth. So I don't do that, but also, I would never sing 'oh happy day'.

Meth is probably the worst of drugs, I've seen it's effects, I had to remove the neighbor from the girl he was beating with a pistol on my front porch. She crawled all the way to my house on her hands and knees through gravel to try and get away, it was an awful sight. Both of these were non believers, the response of two Christians saved her life. Make of this what you want, but Christians and their faith that God would protect them from possible AIDS, she was a bloody mess and a heavy drug user and the man had already threatened me before this incident.

Quote:2. To this man (as to anyone else who did the same) I would say thank you.

I would to and should have put that in what I wrote, I'm glad you are a person who appreciates good deeds.

Quote:3. You realize honking a horn isn't always in anger but to make sure that person is aware of your presence... In my town there's an overwhelming amount of winter visitors. That is, people who are really old and oft times horrible drivers. They don't always realize they're cutting you off, or that the yellow dotted lane next to them is in fact a turning lane so they can please get the fuck out of mine.

I do realize this, you must be in Florida were the old migrate like birds.Wink. I do try to be patient with older drivers, I'll be there sooner than I would like.
All I was trying to do is make a point of equality and a need for absolute moral standards, not trying to run down atheist, sorry if I lead you to that conclusion.

Quote:4. I don't own a gun, but I have had enough proper training to understand that guns are not toys and never to be used in times of frustration such as that.

I never meant all atheist would do such a thing, a little drama to focus on a couple of points. I'm glad you understand the dangers of guns, so many do not, the consequences are high when one uses a gun against another even in self defense.

GC

(October 24, 2013 at 11:09 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: I smoke meth thanks to people trying to impose absolute moral standards on me.

Well, not really. But I would.

A few pipe fulls of that pipe and you would not care if you were a rabbit or moral.

Big Grin GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#20
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(October 24, 2013 at 11:57 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: All of your responses are sincerely appreciated. Please keep them coming Smile

Why does it feel as if FFF's been replaced with a chatbot? Tongue

Maybe he just hasn't gotten to the punchline yet, and if so, it's a really well hidden one.
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