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Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
#11
RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
A class to learn about atheism? No leave not unless it is some kind comparative religions type course. Hell just give that INTERNET class, chances it will be more useful and make them atheists anyway.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#12
RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
Quote:The group tries to justify it by saying that they allow anyone to join, regardless of religion, while really they only allow christians of different denominations.
Pitiful.

I'm surprised they are so ecumenical.
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#13
RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
(November 1, 2013 at 12:07 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The group tries to justify it by saying that they allow anyone to join, regardless of religion, while really they only allow christians of different denominations.
Pitiful.

I'm surprised they are so ecumenical.

Yeah, I find it strange that most churches in my town are interdenominational.
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨
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#14
RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
How many people in your town and how many churches.

Fleecing the sheep is why they are in business.
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#15
RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
(November 1, 2013 at 12:25 am)Minimalist Wrote: Fleecing the sheep is why they are in business.

...and business is booming here in the US.


Seriously, we have a country full of primitive throwbacks. [Image: facepalm.gif]
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#16
RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
(November 1, 2013 at 12:25 am)Minimalist Wrote: How many people in your town and how many churches.

Fleecing the sheep is why they are in business.


about 23,000 people, around 20 churches downtown. I don't know about uptown, I haven't been through there much, but most people I know are interdenominational
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨
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#17
RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
Teaching atheism in school?

I'm a self-taught atheist. And I'd like to think that I'm doing it well.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
How would one teach atheism? Its not as if its a discipline and it has no rituals to classify it as a religion. You cannot be indoctrinated as a result. Saying the class teaches atheism must be a ploy deployed in words to make it sound terrible. Atheism I'd the RESULT of skepticism and rationality, both of Those you Could teach. However not atheism itself. That'd just as bad as teaching creationism. You smash an answer to the kids faced without letting them see the problem worked out. I sure hope that's what they mean to teach and not just "there are no gods because there is no proof" logic loops.
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#19
RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
The multi-denom schools will be 'teaching atheism', they will be teaching about atheism. The following snip from the article was not included in the OP:

'This article was amended on 27 September 2013 to clarify that pupils in multi-denominational schools will learn about atheism as part of the wider curriculum covering ethics, beliefs and religion. Atheists will not be teaching children that God does not exist, as originally stated, rather, children will be educated about atheism, including the atheist belief that God does not exist.'

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RE: Irish schoolchildren to learn about atheism
(November 1, 2013 at 6:47 pm)Einharjar Wrote: How would one teach atheism? Its not as if its a discipline and it has no rituals to classify it as a religion. You cannot be indoctrinated as a result. Saying the class teaches atheism must be a ploy deployed in words to make it sound terrible. Atheism I'd the RESULT of skepticism and rationality, both of Those you Could teach. However not atheism itself. That'd just as bad as teaching creationism. You smash an answer to the kids faced without letting them see the problem worked out. I sure hope that's what they mean to teach and not just "there are no gods because there is no proof" logic loops.
But that's the main reason I'm an atheist...
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