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Christians forgive themselves
#71
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 6, 2013 at 7:14 pm)catfish Wrote:
(November 6, 2013 at 7:06 pm)Brakeman Wrote: You're welcome. And just a reminder, if you ever did convince me that god was real and you really helped me save my soul, I would be so extremely grateful. I am only derisive because I don't believe a word of it.

You don't have to believe a word of it. Marry a believer and you're golden.

WHat?? I don't understand where whom you marry enters into it. Is that a joke or something?
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#72
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 6, 2013 at 7:31 pm)Brakeman Wrote:
(November 6, 2013 at 7:14 pm)catfish Wrote: You don't have to believe a word of it. Marry a believer and you're golden.

WHat?? I don't understand where whom you marry enters into it. Is that a joke or something?

No, it's a part of scripture that most people ignore. Just like the one that says you don't need the "law".
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#73
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 6, 2013 at 1:49 pm)Faith No More Wrote: The condescension just oozes from your words as you strut around attempting to demonstrate your superiority.

I'm going to go look at the bible right now and see if I can find the verse where Jesus says go be an arrogant cocksucker to anyone with different beliefs. Judging by your behavior, it has to be in there.

Thanks for your compliments! And YES, I would love to be more like Jesus! But I'm human, unfortunately. And you keep reminding me of that little fact!

You, as the others like to pick off every piece of lint you can find on Christians, no matter how obscure, or minute...But, NEVER point it out to each other for some of the overwhelmingly gross, putrid insults and profanity I've ever seen on the web!

Anything goes when it comes to "fucking w/ an xtian"!

Let a Christian step out of character for a second? All Hell breaks lose! "I'm going to see if Jesus approved of that!" LOL!

All that's missing in that statement is "Na na na na naaaa!"

The hypocrisy is steaming off the shit pile here!
Quis ut Deus?
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#74
RE: Christians forgive themselves
And that folks, is da truth!

(cue "whiner" insults) Undecided
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#75
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm)ronedee Wrote:
(November 6, 2013 at 1:49 pm)Faith No More Wrote: The condescension just oozes from your words as you strut around attempting to demonstrate your superiority.

I'm going to go look at the bible right now and see if I can find the verse where Jesus says go be an arrogant cocksucker to anyone with different beliefs. Judging by your behavior, it has to be in there.

Thanks for your compliments! And YES, I would love to be more like Jesus! But I'm human, unfortunately. And you keep reminding me of that little fact!

You, as the others like to pick off every piece of lint you can find on Christians, no matter how obscure, or minute...But, NEVER point it out to each other for some of the overwhelmingly gross, putrid insults and profanity I've ever seen on the web!

Anything goes when it comes to "fucking w/ an xtian"!

Let a Christian step out of character for a second? All Hell breaks lose! "I'm going to see if Jesus approved of that!" LOL!

All that's missing in that statement is "Na na na na naaaa!"

The hypocrisy is steaming off the shit pile here!
I'd admit being more like Jesus as portrayed in the bible isn't so bad, as Jesus was a kind, accepting, pacifistic, unassuming, and mild person. The polar opposite of what I see in you.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#76
RE: Christians forgive themselves
Stepping out of character implies you haven't been a sarcastic, superior toned twat Ronedee. Now if you were always phrasing your responses in a normal manner and then replied to someone in a nasty tone, that would be stepping out of character.

This doesn't apply to you mate, but hey, keep on with that undeserved persecution tripe. Someone might fall for it eventually!
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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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#77
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm)Brakeman Wrote:
(November 6, 2013 at 10:16 am)Drich Wrote: You said 'morality.' In Hitler's germany it was considered 'immoral' to allow a jew to escape the 'final solution.'

I'm curious, why do you think the predominately catholic Germans hated the jews?
I didn't want Drich to overlook this one tacked on to my other response.

Why did the Nazi's hate the jews, Drich? Was it for their penchant to cram prayers into cracks or what? Where did the Nazi "moral" come from?
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#78
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 7, 2013 at 7:58 am)Brakeman Wrote: Why did the Nazi's hate the jews, Drich? Was it for their penchant to cram prayers into cracks or what?
Glad you asked brakey, because the only thing I like more than God (As a study subject) is History. The following is a very brief synopsis touching on the high points. Alot more actually happened..

The Nazi party began the rise to power in 1920's Germany because the German people were being oppressed by the League of Nations. As a member they were being forced to pay for the damages caused in WWI. This meant the vast majority of what Germany produced and collected in Taxes were given over to this european organization, which Key members in the Nazi party pointed out it was supposedly run and controlled by Jews.

They also pointed out that the Jews also owned and controlled all of the 'Money' in Germany, and while the non jew german struggled and starved, the Jews prospered (or so said their properganda.) The Nazi's used the hate of the Jews to rally and reunify the broken nation. The Jews were looked at as the primary reason (Because they were dehumanized and turned into a plague of roach people who were sucking that country dry.) That Germany was not a world power.

Once the Germans came together they broke away from thier 'obligations,' and started to funel their money into community projects (Their Autobahn/Highway system, "The People's car" Or VW Beetle, was also to be apart of that program.) They fed and clothed their hungry and homeless and began to provide utilities and basic services to their country, once the infrastructure was rebuilt they began to fire up the factories and put a massive army together, as a result many prospered.

With all of the 'good' they were doing the Nazi party was looked at as a momument of 'Morality.' They did so much 'good' the german people (on mass) stopped asking questions. So when they reached their Zenith in the late 20's early 30's, and the Nazis told them they had to round up the Jews and place them in 'ghettos' so they could be regulated and watched. it was a non-issue, because this great 'moral' soceity that told them what to do in the past that produced so much 'good' was beyond question. Because they had intrest of the German people at heart.

Then the Nazis took the next step. Because the Jews were not allowed to work with the general public on mass, they became wards of the state or a severe drain on resources. (The Jews became what the Nazis said they were.) So the Nazis put them to work Under slave conditions. which was fine for a while, but the deteroration of the Jews became an issue to they were moved from Gettos to Consentration camps. Where is became every Father land loving German 'Moral obligation' to turn out any Jews who might have been over looked. Then it became Every Father Land loving German's obligation to carry out the 'final solution' to the Jewish problem. So that the German Reich could prosper and rule the world for a 1000 years. Then It became every able bodied Father Land loving German's 'Moral obligation" to serve in the 'army' and help the Father land to take over the rest of europe and Asia.

Where did the Nazi Leaders come up with this model of effiency of destruction and oppression of a lessor race occupying the same country? In Hitler's writtings He sights how well this work for the United States, when dealing with the Native Americans just one or two generations prior. We rounded them up put them in camps and starved and infected the native Americans till all but a small percent remained. This too was the 'Moral' responsiablity of the US Goverment and people to realize our "Manifest Destiny." (To span the North American continant.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations
http://library.thinkquest.org/12307/nazirise.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Naz..._officials
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Solution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrati...ation_camp

Quote: Where did the Nazi "moral" come from?

From popular belief, pride and a general sense of entitlement. The same place ALL "Morality" comes from.

That is why 'Morality' is a crap standard.
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#79
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 2, 2013 at 3:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Morality has nothing to do with religion.

If morality has nothing to do with religion, then how come religion is so consistently immoral?
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#80
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm)ronedee Wrote: You, as the others like to pick off every piece of lint you can find on Christians,

Not Christians, just the assholes. You just happen to fall into both categories.

(November 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm)ronedee Wrote: no matter how obscure, or minute...But, NEVER point it out to each other for some of the overwhelmingly gross, putrid insults and profanity I've ever seen on the web!

Anything goes when it comes to "fucking w/ an xtian"!

And here we have the absurd Christian standard. You whine when people call you out for your demeaning beliefs but get upset that we don't jump on someone for profane insults. Have you ever thought that maybe you get the vitriol because people are more disgusted by your putrid beliefs and behavior that derives from them than one person calling another an asshole?

You Christians just like to play the persecution card rather than actually examine your behavior that led to a nasty reaction, and that's not an endearing trait.

(November 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm)ronedee Wrote: Let a Christian step out of character for a second? All Hell breaks lose! "I'm going to see if Jesus approved of that!" LOL!

All that's missing in that statement is "Na na na na naaaa!"

The hypocrisy is steaming off the shit pile here!

The day you and your brothers-in-christ stop claiming moral superiority is the day I will stop pointing out that you fail to achieve it.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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