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I read something I found peculiar
#11
RE: I read something I found peculiar
Monothiesm is the churches way of consolidating their power Smile
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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#12
RE: I read something I found peculiar
Binny,

God is schizophrenic. One being with three personalities. He was talking to himselves.

Simples.
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#13
RE: I read something I found peculiar
(November 5, 2009 at 8:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Which I answered above.

Can't accept that answer. We are supposedly created in god's image and so our image is that of god's is it not? So I ask again, why would god have an image (phyisical or not). What purpose does it serve god to have an image? Also why have any image at all if none can see it? The purpose behind it may either be 1. There is no purpose and is completely devoid of meaning or 2. God does not exist and so an image of him would be impossible. or 3. Theists need to maintain gods invisibility and so dodge questions that ask what I have asked, "what is the purpose for god to bare an image?".
God is supposedly beyond any detection for which includes sight, sound and touch. Then to say an image of him exists afterwards is just confusing and strange. God has an image(supposedly) yet none can see it. What is the purpose of it? Why would an all perfect god behave in such an inperfect way? Maybe it's because it's us who controls god and not the other way round. Which would explain all the strange and meaningless behaviour from him. He is our creation and we are far from perfect. I think that says it all doesn't it.

Thinking
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#14
RE: I read something I found peculiar
I think it's man's arrogance to think a god would make man in his own image.
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#15
RE: I read something I found peculiar
Quote:I think it's man's arrogance to think a god would make man in his own image.
Which is why I call that type of religion 'Egotism' or 'Narcissistic' Smile It is egotistical to believe that gods are made in our form Tongue
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#16
RE: I read something I found peculiar
(November 5, 2009 at 8:27 pm)Secularone Wrote: These scriptures were written at a time when the Israelites were polytheistic. That is, they worshipped many gods. Saerules is correct. She is not incorrect as fr0d0 claims.

Way off topic as usual. It's like you understand nothing of what anyone is saying SO.
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#17
RE: I read something I found peculiar
fr0d0 Wrote:It's on about the God spot inside all humans supposedly. Funny Evie just brought this up this week in a private convo. I've heard the creation story explained as animal (no spirit, material), angel (only spirit) and people (spirit and material). It's an attempt to explain the potential of thought that distinguishes humans. It's our soul that is attracted to God/ that would be fulfilled _in_ God, just like finding perfect health.

There are many gods described in Christianity. Other than that Sae is way off the wall as usual
<insert Secularone's response>
fr0d0 Wrote:Way off topic as usual. It's like you understand nothing of what anyone is saying SO.

He was rebutting the far above and also reinforcing post #2 with additional (and accurate) facts. The topic of this thread can be seen in the first post, and post #10 is right in line with the topic (Original Judaic polytheism).
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#18
RE: I read something I found peculiar
(November 6, 2009 at 12:43 pm)Saerules Wrote:
Quote:I think it's man's arrogance to think a god would make man in his own image.
Which is why I call that type of religion 'Egotism' or 'Narcissistic' Smile It is egotistical to believe that gods are made in our form Tongue

Yeah I agree with both your sentiments. People are egotistical/ narcissistic and religion reflects that. What other way could you explain to humans the nature of God but in human terms? The intention isn't egotistical. It's poignant. gods aren't made in our form, we describe gods in terms meaningful to us.
(November 6, 2009 at 6:18 pm)Saerules Wrote: He was rebutting the far above and also reinforcing post #2 with additional (and accurate) facts. The topic of this thread can be seen in the first post, and post #10 is right in line with the topic (Original Judaic polytheism).

Yes but that wasn't what you were saying Sae. You think Christianity when monotheistic is polytheistic. SO is just being tangental which helps no one.
(November 6, 2009 at 6:08 am)Ace Wrote:
(November 5, 2009 at 8:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Which I answered above.

Can't accept that answer. We are supposedly created in god's image and so our image is that of god's is it not? So I ask again, why would god have an image (phyisical or not). What purpose does it serve god to have an image? Also why have any image at all if none can see it? The purpose behind it may either be 1. There is no purpose and is completely devoid of meaning or 2. God does not exist and so an image of him would be impossible. or 3. Theists need to maintain gods invisibility and so dodge questions that ask what I have asked, "what is the purpose for god to bare an image?".
God is supposedly beyond any detection for which includes sight, sound and touch. Then to say an image of him exists afterwards is just confusing and strange. God has an image(supposedly) yet none can see it. What is the purpose of it? Why would an all perfect god behave in such an inperfect way? Maybe it's because it's us who controls god and not the other way round. Which would explain all the strange and meaningless behaviour from him. He is our creation and we are far from perfect. I think that says it all doesn't it.

Thinking

The purpose of the image is to relate our understanding of something tangible to humans to the divine which is God. Grasping something real to us helps us to grasp an idea such as God. People have rationally concluded this about the nature of God.

Your limitation of the word 'image' isn't rational. People can easily understand this concept. Nothing about God is strange or meaningless.. it all follows exact logic. You can't apply a set of rules from one thing to another where they don't apply. You can bite and taste an apple, but if I pass on some information to you you can neither taste it nor bite it.. does that make it no information, or just not an apple?
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#19
RE: I read something I found peculiar
Quote:Yeah I agree with both your sentiments. People are egotistical/ narcissistic and religion reflects that. What other way could you explain to humans the nature of God but in human terms? The intention isn't egotistical. It's poignant. gods aren't made in our form, we describe gods in terms meaningful to us.
Erm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropology_of_religion ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomor...ythologies ?
Describing gods in 'terms meaningful to us' is the same thing as 'making' or 'defining' them. I don't give a damn about 'God'... i am talking about how humans made all of our gods. I hardly think you would debate this point. Smile

Quote:Yes but that wasn't what you were saying Sae. You think Christianity when monotheistic is polytheistic. SO is just being tangental which helps no one.
I think that as well. The only way to de-polytheisticify it is to remove all the angels and whatnot Tongue
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#20
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Moving on...
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