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December 16, 2013 at 7:15 am (This post was last modified: December 16, 2013 at 7:22 am by Nineteen.)
missluckie26 Wrote:
(December 15, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Nineteen Wrote:
(December 15, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote: You called me mentally disordered earlier on this page, and Sleepy did in every post he made in the last few days. Can you produce a scenario in which that isn't insulting?
I said my opinion about Homo people , this is not genetic and they are mental disordered , they need the psychological therapy . This is not an insult . If I would say homos are idiots , this would be an insult .
Okay , this was my last post for this thread . As salam alaikum .
Darling, you're stuck in the dark ages aren't you? I'm surprised you're even able to use a computer--much less be allowed on one by your kin.
I'll just PM this to you, I feel bad for you that you are so ignorant.
The World knows you're wrong. It's quite embarrassing for you, actually. Try to educate yourself. As a woman in this century, it's up to you to educate your backwards thinking men about things like facts and truth. As I see it, you're just one of their little puppets, if you're even a woman at all which I have big doubts about anyways.
Wikipedia: Wrote:As a result of such accumulated research, professionals in medicine, mental health, and the behavioral and social sciences, oppose the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder, claimed the conclusion that it was inaccurate, and that the DSM classification reflected untested assumptions that were based on once-prevalent social norms and clinical impressions from unrepresentative samples which consisted of patients seeking therapy and individuals whose conduct brought them into the criminal justice system.[1]
American Psychology Association Wrote:What is sexual orientation?
Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors and membership in a community of others who share those attractions. Research over several decades has demonstrated that sexual orientation ranges along a continuum, from exclusive attraction to the other sex to exclusive attraction to the same sex. However, sexual orientation is usually discussed in terms of three categories: heterosexual (having emotional, romantic or sexual attractions to members of the other sex), gay/lesbian (having emotional, romantic or sexual attractions to members of one’s own sex), and bisexual (having emotional, romantic or sexual attractions to both men and women). This range of behaviors and attractions has been described in various cultures and nations throughout the world. Many cultures use identity labels to describe people who express these attractions. In the United States the most frequent labels are lesbians (women attracted to women), gay men (men attracted to men) and bisexual people (men or women attracted to both sexes). However, some people may use different labels or none at all.
Even in 1905 the greatest psychiatric minds knew you are wrong.
Psychology.ucdavis.edu Wrote:Sigmund Freud
Sigmund Freud's basic theory of human sexuality was different from that of Ellis. He believed all human beings were innately bisexual, and that they become heterosexual or homosexual as a result of their experiences with parents and others (Freud, 1905).
In a review of published studies comparing homosexual and heterosexual samples on psychological tests, Gonsiorek (1982) found that, although some differences have been observed in test results between homosexuals and heterosexuals, both groups consistently score within the normal range. Gonsiorek concluded that "Homosexuality in and of itself is unrelated to psychological disturbance or maladjustment. Homosexuals as a group are not more psychologically disturbed on account of their homosexuality" (Gonsiorek, 1982, p. 74; see also reviews by Gonsiorek, 1991; Hart, Roback, Tittler, Weitz, Walston & McKee, 1978; Riess, 1980). Confronted with overwhelming empirical evidence and changing cultural views of homosexuality, psychiatrists and psychologists radically altered their views, beginning in the 1970s.
In 1973, the weight of empirical data, coupled with changing social norms and the development of a politically active gay community in the United States, led the Board of Directors of the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Some psychiatrists who fiercely opposed their action subsequently circulated a petition calling for a vote on the issue by the Association's membership. That vote was held in 1974, and the Board's decision was ratified.
Subsequently, a new diagnosis, ego-dystonic homosexuality, was created for the DSM's third edition in 1980. Ego dystonic homosexuality was indicated by: (1) a persistent lack of heterosexual arousal, which the patient experienced as interfering with initiation or maintenance of wanted heterosexual relationships, and (2) persistent distress from a sustained pattern of unwanted homosexual arousal.
In case you can't read english very well, That last one just stated that The WORLD removed homosexuality from the books as a mental disorder almost 40 years ago, dearie.
It also put IN the books the fact that when you deny your own sexuality (like for religious reasons), it creates mental illness.
Therefore I would conclude that all the religious folks there where you live who are homosexual and punish themselves for being that way, are mentally ill. Pretty much your religion CREATES mental illness.
/Truth
This is a memorized sentence by all the homo people and atheists , they say "its not a disease because it has been removed from disease class in year 19....." , you can see this formulaic phrases from every single homo , a kind of defense mechanism , not a thought sentence but a reflex .
Psychiatric units has been abolished the defining "disease" and renamed it as "gender identity disorder" . They dont say "This is a normal thing" .
This is just a matter of preference , they prefer to remain "unnatural" . A perverse self orientation.
On the other hand , homo people are usually atheist because there are only atheist people who defend them and Atheist people defends homos without any scientific evidence because of it is rejected by religions .
Another hypocrisy of atheists . They say "our religions is science" but they defends their rigid thoughts without science .
Warning : You will be ignored if you continue to personal attacks away from the heart of the matter .
December 16, 2013 at 7:16 am (This post was last modified: December 16, 2013 at 7:19 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(December 16, 2013 at 7:15 am)Nineteen Wrote: They say [i]"our religions is science"
No they don't.
Your archaic views are a shame for all humanity.
Oh wait, lulz, i'm on your ignore list. I can just say anything and you can't reply. Are you against homosexuality because you yourself are gay? Probably!
And ninteen has just demonstrated that the title of this thread is partly true.....Biggoted bitch!
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(December 16, 2013 at 7:16 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:
(December 16, 2013 at 7:15 am)Nineteen Wrote: They say [i]"our religions is science"
No they don't.
Your archaic views are a shame for all humanity.
Oh wait, lulz, i'm on your ignore list. I can just say anything and you can't reply. Are you against homosexuality because you yourself are gay? Probably!
December 16, 2013 at 7:42 am (This post was last modified: December 16, 2013 at 7:43 am by Dragonetti.)
The Islamic and religious point of views are skewed. Science did not exist during their creation, and it should hold no value on the subjects of science. Please stop trying to pass your unscientific opinion as fact. I have no problem with you expressing your opinion, which makes you a bigot and a racist, but do not pass it as fact or as accepted science.
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December 16, 2013 at 7:46 am (This post was last modified: December 16, 2013 at 7:47 am by Zen Badger.)
(December 16, 2013 at 7:15 am)Nineteen Wrote:
missluckie26 Wrote:
Darling, you're stuck in the dark ages aren't you? I'm surprised you're even able to use a computer--much less be allowed on one by your kin.
I'll just PM this to you, I feel bad for you that you are so ignorant.
The World knows you're wrong. It's quite embarrassing for you, actually. Try to educate yourself. As a woman in this century, it's up to you to educate your backwards thinking men about things like facts and truth. As I see it, you're just one of their little puppets, if you're even a woman at all which I have big doubts about anyways.
Even in 1905 the greatest psychiatric minds knew you are wrong.
In case you can't read english very well, That last one just stated that The WORLD removed homosexuality from the books as a mental disorder almost 40 years ago, dearie.
It also put IN the books the fact that when you deny your own sexuality (like for religious reasons), it creates mental illness.
Therefore I would conclude that all the religious folks there where you live who are homosexual and punish themselves for being that way, are mentally ill. Pretty much your religion CREATES mental illness.
/Truth
This is a memorized sentence by all the homo people and atheists , they say "its not a disease because it has been removed from disease class in year 19....." , you can see this formulaic phrases from every single homo , a kind of defense mechanism , not a thought sentence but a reflex .
Psychiatric units has been abolished the defining "disease" and renamed it as "gender identity disorder" . They dont say "This is a normal thing" .
This is just a matter of preference , they prefer to remain "unnatural" . A perverse self orientation.
On the other hand , homo people are usually atheist because there are only atheist people who defend them and Atheist people defends homos without any scientific evidence because of it is rejected by religions .
Another hypocrisy of atheists . They say "our religions is science" but they defends their rigid thoughts without science .
Warning : You will be ignored if you continue to personal attacks away from the heart of the matter .
This made no sense whatsoever.
(December 5, 2013 at 5:57 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:
(December 5, 2013 at 5:47 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: And in further news, water is wet.
Yes, but only because someone first called it "wet". Was water "wet" before man gave it that distinction? Just like religion, man has constructed what he observes into a sort of reality, and the imagination has no limits. From now on, I will strive to see water as "dry". Perhaps when I am able to do so, religion too will have died.
Since you can get dry ice.......
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
December 16, 2013 at 7:50 am (This post was last modified: December 16, 2013 at 7:53 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(December 16, 2013 at 7:41 am)JohnCrichton72 Wrote:
(December 16, 2013 at 7:16 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: No they don't.
Your archaic views are a shame for all humanity.
Oh wait, lulz, i'm on your ignore list. I can just say anything and you can't reply. Are you against homosexuality because you yourself are gay? Probably!
How's that productive dialogue coming?
I missed it.
I think it was supposed to depart from the station about 9:30 but I was late getting out of bed so I had to catch a later train.
In all seriousness, you can attempt "productive dialogue" if you want, but when you're on ignore for simply disagreeing with someone (eg. 19), it kind of skews the notion of having productive dialogue. But you'll find that out soon enough.
(December 16, 2013 at 7:15 am)Nineteen Wrote: This is a memorized sentence by all the homo people and atheists , they say "its not a disease because it has been removed from disease class in year 19....." , you can see this formulaic phrases from every single homo , a kind of defense mechanism , not a thought sentence but a reflex .
Gee, could that be because your pathetic argument is PRATT (Point Refuted A Thousand Times) and by now the obvious refutation has become automatic? Ever think maybe the problem is you and yours being unable to get the facts in past your blinkers?
Quote:Psychiatric units has been abolished the defining "disease" and renamed it as "gender identity disorder" . They dont say "This is a normal thing" .
Gender identity disorder also has nothing to do with homosexuality...
Chalk that up to another critical failure of thinking for Nineteen, but I'd also add that the "disorder" part of the diagnosis refers to the discomfort the patient feels, and has nothing to do with normalcy in any sense other than "this is wrong and needs to be fixed by realigning the patient's body to match his/her/hir perceived identity."
Quote:This is just a matter of preference , they prefer to remain "unnatural" . A perverse self orientation.
Too bad the science disagrees with you. I think I'd rather go with that, than with you.
Quote:On the other hand , homo people are usually atheist because there are only atheist people who defend them and Atheist people defends homos without any scientific evidence because of it is rejected by religions .
First premise: incorrect, since I know plenty religious folk who are tolerant of the LGBT crowd and not bigoted windbags like you.
Second premise: what scientific evidence are you after? It's simply demonstrated that homosexuality is natural, I know for a fact Luckie sent you a whole bunch of evidence that you're summarily ignoring in order to assert that there isn't any. Why should anyone take you seriously?
Quote:Another hypocrisy of atheists . They say "our religions is science" but they defends their rigid thoughts without science .
Oh, I didn't know you'd met the Straw-Atheists!
(For the record, I know already that Nineteen won't understand that reference, so maybe she'll look it up before she takes it literally.)
Quote:Warning : You will be ignored if you continue to personal attacks away from the heart of the matter .
Oh no, whatever will we doooooooo?
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