Islam is Homophobic

[JohnCrichton72]

How's that productive dialogue coming?

I missed it.

I think it was supposed to depart from the station about 9:30 but I was late getting out of bed so I had to catch a later train.

In all seriousness, you can attempt "productive dialogue" if you want, but when you're on ignore for simply disagreeing with someone (eg. 19), it kind of skews the notion of having productive dialogue. But you'll find that out soon enough.

The point I was getting at;

This is the extent of the dialogue you will have with the majority of Muslims in your life time, as will I. We will be ignored at best or slandered as some form of xenophobic social pariah, at worst you will really get the attention of the Islamic community.

The people in that community willing to talk do not need our criticism, they generally know all to well and they (in my experience) are the fringe minority. Generally not even Muslim but unable to say out of fear, unable to encourage change even if they are Muslim for fear of death.

Only 500 more years woohoo !!

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I missed it.

I think it was supposed to depart from the station about 9:30 but I was late getting out of bed so I had to catch a later train.

In all seriousness, you can attempt "productive dialogue" if you want, but when you're on ignore for simply disagreeing with someone (eg. 19), it kind of skews the notion of having productive dialogue. But you'll find that out soon enough.

The point I was getting at;

This is the extent of the dialogue you will have with the majority of Muslims in your life time, as will I. We will be ignored at best or slandered as some form of xenophobic social pariah, at worst you will really get the attention of the Islamic community.

The people in that community willing to talk do not need our criticism, they generally know all to well and they (in my experience) are the fringe minority. Generally not even Muslim but unable to say out of fear, unable to encourage change even if they are Muslim for fear of death.

Only 500 more years woohoo !!

Apologies. I thought you were having a go I'm quite angsty today lol

[Ksa]

I wonder how gay muslims feel about Islam's stance on homosexuality. Do they think it's justified or do they think Islam is wrong or that the interpretation is wrong? Not that they would admit to being gay.

That's an oxymoron. A Muslim is a person who submits his will to God. According to Muslims, submitting your will to God also implies not "trying" to be gay. The Muslim standpoint is that being gay is not genetically acquired, you have to struggle, it's like being a lawyer, you're not born that way you have to struggle to become one. It's the influence of pornography, movies, news-papers talking about homosexuals that give those ideas according to them...lol

Questions like "Why are you gay?" or "Why do you do this to your family?" or "Why can't you find a woman?" asked to homosexuals captured under Sharia law indicate the lack of understanding. When the homosexual says he is born that way he is either beaten or cursed at.

[JohnCrichton72]

I wonder how gay muslims feel about Islam's stance on homosexuality. Do they think it's justified or do they think Islam is wrong or that the interpretation is wrong? Not that they would admit to being gay.

That's an oxymoron. A Muslim is a person who submits his will to God. According to Muslims, submitting your will to God also implies not "trying" to be gay. The Muslim standpoint is that being gay is not genetically acquired, you have to struggle, it's like being a lawyer, you're not born that way you have to struggle to become one. It's the influence of pornography, movies, news-papers talking about homosexuals that give those ideas according to them...lol

Questions like "Why are you gay?" or "Why do you do this to your family?" or "Why can't you find a woman?" asked to homosexuals captured under Sharia law indicate the lack of understanding. When the homosexual says he is born that way he is either beaten or cursed at.

Ohh I was procrastinating and found this. Gay sex can be permitted in Islam

[Ksa]

^ That's Jihad training not gay sex xD

It's like saying that killing a deer to eat it is the same as masturbating while watching a naked woman kill a deer for no good reason. One is allowed, the other is crime. The outcome is the same: The deer is dead.

For it to be crime in Islam it has to be a sexual act, not just sodomized with an object, that is merely a surgical procedure. The guy should go bomb his own family and take them to "paradise" instead of murdering innocents...

[Dragonetti]

There is a lot of male on male rape happening in the middle east.

[Duck]

This is a memorized sentence by all the homo people and atheists , they say "its not a disease because it has been removed from disease class in year 19....." , you can see this formulaic phrases from every single homo , a kind of defense mechanism , not a thought sentence but a reflex .

No, it isn't a disease because it does not fit the description of a disease:
a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury {Oxford English Dictionary}. Homosexuality does not fit this, so is not a disease.

Psychiatric units has been abolished the defining "disease" and renamed it as "gender identity disorder" . They dont say "This is a normal thing" .

I don't think you have a good grasp of, well, the English language here (this 'sentence' for want of a better word doesn't really make any sense). Also, gender identity disorder is characterized by a man (or woman) feeling like his (or her) personality and sense of self is that of the opposite sex. Basically, that he is stuck in a male body but should be female (or she is stuck in a female body but is a man). Nothing to do with homosexuality.

This is just a matter of preference , they prefer to remain "unnatural" . A perverse self orientation.

Not really, it is just what the want. What they find attractive. The kind of women that men find attractive has changed over time and is subject to societal pressure. There is nothing perverse about being gay, there is something perverse about caring that others are gay.

On the other hand , homo people are usually atheist because there are only atheist people who defend them and Atheist people defends homos without any scientific evidence because of it is rejected by religions .

The first bit (only atheists defend them) is partially true (fundamentalists have a long and dishonourable history of persecuting and killing gay people). Gay people are hardly likely to hang about with people who will at best verabally abuse them just because of who they are. The horrid, tolerant and accepting atheists must be the bad ones here.

Why would one need scientifically gathered evidence to be tolerant of others and uphold their human rights? What evidence could there be for this to be the wrong course of action?

Another hypocrisy of atheists . They say "our religions is science" but they defends their rigid thoughts without science .

Er, atheist don't have a religion. A-theist. Without theism. No belief in god. No religion. Atheists DO NOT HAVE RELIGION. By definition.

Warning : You will be ignored if you continue to personal attacks away from the heart of the matter .

Thanks for the warning, I guess?

[Ksa]

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Darling, you're stuck in the dark ages aren't you? I'm surprised you're even able to use a computer--much less be allowed on one by your kin.

I'll just PM this to you, I feel bad for you that you are so ignorant.
The World knows you're wrong. It's quite embarrassing for you, actually. Try to educate yourself. As a woman in this century, it's up to you to educate your backwards thinking men about things like facts and truth. As I see it, you're just one of their little puppets, if you're even a woman at all which I have big doubts about anyways.




Even in 1905 the greatest psychiatric minds knew you are wrong.


In case you can't read english very well, That last one just stated that The WORLD removed homosexuality from the books as a mental disorder almost 40 years ago, dearie.
It also put IN the books the fact that when you deny your own sexuality (like for religious reasons), it creates mental illness.
Therefore I would conclude that all the religious folks there where you live who are homosexual and punish themselves for being that way, are mentally ill. Pretty much your religion CREATES mental illness.

/Truth

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This is a memorized sentence by all the homo people and atheists , they say "its not a disease because it has been removed from disease class in year 19....." , you can see this formulaic phrases from every single homo , a kind of defense mechanism , not a thought sentence but a reflex .

Psychiatric units has been abolished the defining "disease" and renamed it as "gender identity disorder" . They dont say "This is a normal thing" .

This is just a matter of preference , they prefer to remain "unnatural" . A perverse self orientation.


On the other hand , homo people are usually atheist because there are only atheist people who defend them and Atheist people defends homos without any scientific evidence because of it is rejected by religions .

Another hypocrisy of atheists . They say "our religions is science" but they defends their rigid thoughts without science .

Warning : You will be ignored if you continue to personal attacks away from the heart of the matter .

The Wellcome Trust Centre for neuro-imaging at University College London used magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI to look into the brains of 80 men and women, including 16 gays and 15 lesbians.

They found that lesbians have a “male-like” proportion and distribution of grey matter in their brain when compared with heterosexual women.

“In homosexual women, the perirhinal cortex grey matter displayed a male-like structural pattern,” the researchers said in a paper published in the Public Library of Science. The perirhinal area is associated with social and sexual behaviour.






http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%...ne.0000762

[JohnCrichton72]

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Does using facts ever work?

More importantly repeating the same mistake over and over whilst expecting different results is a sign of insanity.

Also I remember hearing that there is an auto immune response that is more likely, if at all, to happen during pregnancy to every second male child that cause him to become less responsive to female pheromones. You seem knowledgeable, heard anything?

[Bad Wolf]

Also I remember hearing that there is an auto immune response that is more likely, if at all, to happen during pregnancy to every second male child that cause him to become less responsive to female pheromones. You seem knowledgeable, heard anything?

There was something like that in that documentary with John Barrowman