Islam is Homophobic

[TaraJo]

This is a memorized sentence by all the homo people and atheists , they say "its not a disease because it has been removed from disease class in year 19....." ,

Hardly memorized. I don't even know what year it was removed from the the books because it doesn't matter: it wasn't a disease before then and it isn't diease after that.

Psychiatric units has been abolished the defining "disease" and renamed it as "gender identity disorder"

Two flaws with that one. First off, "gender identity disorder" is totally not the same thing as homosexuality. Gender identity disorder is about gender identity; it's abou who you are, no about who you fuck. There are a lot of people who would have been determined to have gender identity disorder who identify as gay and a lot who identify as bisexual and others who identify as straight or even asexual.

However, the second problem is that even gender identity disorder has been taken off the books. Didn't Lilly even start a thread about that, back when I first joined the group?

. They dont say "This is a normal thing" .

"Normal?" Being gay is considered pretty normal. Being trans? Might not be entirely "normal," depending no how you define that word, but it's certainly not a disease that needs to be cured. In fact, every legitimate scientific journal over the past twenty+ years has found the same thing: the best treatment for transsexuals is to transition. Also, they've found that reparitive therapy (aka trying to "fix" themselves) does a lot more harm than good. And having talked to people who have done this, I'm forced to agree: curing yourself only makes the pain more painful.

On the other hand , homo people are usually atheist because there are only atheist people who defend them and Atheist people defends homos without any scientific evidence because of it is rejected by religions .

Ok, first, you might want to learn a little about grammar before you say anything else, because that line was butchered like nothing I've ever seen.

But, second, no, homosexuals aren't usually atheists. Here, in Houston, one of the biggest supporters of the trans community is actually a pastor of a church. Another good friend of mine is very active in his church and he's gay. I had a few friends back in 2008 who I haven't talked to much since I came to Houston, they're both deeply religious and lesbians. I have another friend in Chicago who actually went to semenary and she's also a lesbian. And that's just my personal situation. There is an increasing number of gay friendly churches, lead, of course, by the Metropolitian Community Church. Many other already well established churches are beginning to accept homosexuality, and several more are on the fence.

Another hypocrisy of atheists . They say "our religions is science" but they defends their rigid thoughts without science .

I have never heard an atheist say "our religion is science." I smell a strawman here.

And it's hardly fair to call my thoughts rigid; I'm open to believing in a god, but first I need to be presented with legitimate evidence that such a god exists. So far, I haven't seen any. If you can provide me with proof that Allah exists, I'll gladly become a Muslim.

Warning : You will be ignored if you continue to personal attacks away from the heart of the matter .

That is, quite possibly, the most closed minded thing I have seen on this forum.... and that's saying quite a bit.

[Ksa]

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Does using facts ever work?

More importantly repeating the same mistake over and over whilst expecting different results is a sign of insanity.

Also I remember hearing that there is an auto immune response that is more likely, if at all, to happen during pregnancy to every second male child that cause him to become less responsive to female pheromones. You seem knowledgeable, heard anything?

The immune system can attack anything. As long as it doesn't attack it's own host, it will be asymptomatic. It becomes a problem when the immune system attacks its own host, like with autoimmune progesterone dermatitis where the woman gets attacks during her periods, and can even go into anaphylactic shock.

I'm just tired about that Muslim chick talking shit about homosexuals, she clearly knows nothing and I have proven it. When you analyze the data it shows pretty well that homosexuals can't control their desire. It's just hate coming from her, and ignorance based intolerance.

[Nineteen]

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Hardly memorized. I don't even know what year it was removed from the the books because it doesn't matter: it wasn't a disease before then and it isn't diease after that.

Two flaws with that one. First off, "gender identity disorder" is totally not the same thing as homosexuality. Gender identity disorder is about gender identity; it's abou who you are, no about who you fuck. There are a lot of people who would have been determined to have gender identity disorder who identify as gay and a lot who identify as bisexual and others who identify as straight or even asexual.

However, the second problem is that even gender identity disorder has been taken off the books. Didn't Lilly even start a thread about that, back when I first joined the group?

"Normal?" Being gay is considered pretty normal. Being trans? Might not be entirely "normal," depending no how you define that word, but it's certainly not a disease that needs to be cured. In fact, every legitimate scientific journal over the past twenty+ years has found the same thing: the best treatment for transsexuals is to transition. Also, they've found that reparitive therapy (aka trying to "fix" themselves) does a lot more harm than good. And having talked to people who have done this, I'm forced to agree: curing yourself only makes the pain more painful.

Ok, first, you might want to learn a little about grammar before you say anything else, because that line was butchered like nothing I've ever seen.

But, second, no, homosexuals aren't usually atheists. Here, in Houston, one of the biggest supporters of the trans community is actually a pastor of a church. Another good friend of mine is very active in his church and he's gay. I had a few friends back in 2008 who I haven't talked to much since I came to Houston, they're both deeply religious and lesbians. I have another friend in Chicago who actually went to semenary and she's also a lesbian. And that's just my personal situation. There is an increasing number of gay friendly churches, lead, of course, by the Metropolitian Community Church. Many other already well established churches are beginning to accept homosexuality, and several more are on the fence.

I have never heard an atheist say "our religion is science." I smell a strawman here.

And it's hardly fair to call my thoughts rigid; I'm open to believing in a god, but first I need to be presented with legitimate evidence that such a god exists. So far, I haven't seen any. If you can provide me with proof that Allah exists, I'll gladly become a Muslim.

That is, quite possibly, the most closed minded thing I have seen on this forum.... and that's saying quite a bit.

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You're defending something that have no evidence about its naturalness. A man completely with male characteristics is behaving like a woman or just the opposite . This deviation is entirely instinctive disorder , sometimes even observed on animals . Not having sex but proliferation is instinctive desire and is a scientific fact . Homosexuality is not a scientific fact and purpose of homos is having sex . Western science often prefer to remain silent about this issue , they just say this is not a "disease" and they dont want to continue the phrase to say "this is a perversion" . Probably they are concerned about their own interests .

[Fidel_Castronaut]

The ignorance is just...just astounding.

[Ksa]

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Hardly memorized. I don't even know what year it was removed from the the books because it doesn't matter: it wasn't a disease before then and it isn't diease after that.

Two flaws with that one. First off, "gender identity disorder" is totally not the same thing as homosexuality. Gender identity disorder is about gender identity; it's abou who you are, no about who you fuck. There are a lot of people who would have been determined to have gender identity disorder who identify as gay and a lot who identify as bisexual and others who identify as straight or even asexual.

However, the second problem is that even gender identity disorder has been taken off the books. Didn't Lilly even start a thread about that, back when I first joined the group?

"Normal?" Being gay is considered pretty normal. Being trans? Might not be entirely "normal," depending no how you define that word, but it's certainly not a disease that needs to be cured. In fact, every legitimate scientific journal over the past twenty+ years has found the same thing: the best treatment for transsexuals is to transition. Also, they've found that reparitive therapy (aka trying to "fix" themselves) does a lot more harm than good. And having talked to people who have done this, I'm forced to agree: curing yourself only makes the pain more painful.

Ok, first, you might want to learn a little about grammar before you say anything else, because that line was butchered like nothing I've ever seen.

But, second, no, homosexuals aren't usually atheists. Here, in Houston, one of the biggest supporters of the trans community is actually a pastor of a church. Another good friend of mine is very active in his church and he's gay. I had a few friends back in 2008 who I haven't talked to much since I came to Houston, they're both deeply religious and lesbians. I have another friend in Chicago who actually went to semenary and she's also a lesbian. And that's just my personal situation. There is an increasing number of gay friendly churches, lead, of course, by the Metropolitian Community Church. Many other already well established churches are beginning to accept homosexuality, and several more are on the fence.

I have never heard an atheist say "our religion is science." I smell a strawman here.

And it's hardly fair to call my thoughts rigid; I'm open to believing in a god, but first I need to be presented with legitimate evidence that such a god exists. So far, I haven't seen any. If you can provide me with proof that Allah exists, I'll gladly become a Muslim.

That is, quite possibly, the most closed minded thing I have seen on this forum.... and that's saying quite a bit.

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You're defending something that have no evidence about its naturalness. A man completely with male characteristics is behaving like a woman or just the opposite . This deviation is entirely instinctive disorder , sometimes even observed on animals . Not having sex but proliferation is instinctive desire and is a scientific fact . Homosexuality is not a scientific fact and purpose of homos is having sex . Western science often prefer to remain silent about this issue , they just say this is not a "disease" and they dont want to continue the phrase to say "this is a perversion" . Probably they are concerned about their own interests .

Is she a fucking idiot? Everyone accepted the evidence I posted...wtf

This is spam if anything. If she blocked me she can't see the paper study? A 7 unit difference in grey matter with a 0.68 uncertainty is more then 3 standard deviations away from baseline.

[TaraJo]

You're defending something that have no evidence about its naturalness.

Sure, I can do that. First I'll need you to define "naturalness."

A man completely with male characteristics is behaving like a woman or just the opposite .

Funny. Care to tell me how a woman acts or how a man acts?

This deviation is entirely instinctive disorder , sometimes even observed on animals . Not having sex but proliferation is instinctive desire and is a scientific fact . Homosexuality is not a scientific fact and purpose of homos is having sex .

That's funny, too. How do you define a scientific fact?

For me, if something is widly accepted by most scientists, especially scientists in the field that the fact deas with, I'll consider it factual.

Most scientists who study psychology agree that homosexuality is pretty normal. Epidemiologists (aka scientists who study diseases) don't concern themselves with homosexuality because, surprise, it's not a disease.

The scientific facts are this: homosexuality has been observed in many animals, not just humans. Hell, back when I was a teen, I had a dog who seemed to love humping male dogs. My dog was unnatural, right?

The science also seems to agree that trying to "cure" or "fix" homosexuals does far more harm than good. My boyfriend tried to "cure" himself and it made him even more miserable. The recommended treatment for homosexuality is acceptance, not denial.

Western science often prefer to remain silent about this issue , they just say this is not a "disease" and they dont want to continue the phrase to say "this is a perversion" . Probably they are concerned about their own interests .

No, mostly, western science has discovered that homosexuality is all over the place. Even within human history, plenty of cultures were perfectly ok with homosexuality from the Greeks to the Romans to native Americans.

Or, we could always rely on Islamic science. Tell me, Ninteen, when was the last time a Muslim won a Nobel prize? Especially one in science? I'll be waiting for your answer.

[Esquilax]

You're defending something that have no evidence about its naturalness.

So, that's just a dead lie. A bald faced, complete, terrible, ugly lie, perpetrated in complete defiance of the proper image you're trying to project here. You've been given evidence; Luckie gave you some, ksa gave you some... you even quoted Luckie earlier, so you didn't just miss it.

You're lying, plain and simple.

A man completely with male characteristics is behaving like a woman or just the opposite .

Because the only gay men are queens, and the only gay women are dykes. Jesus christ, you are just willfully, totally ignorant on this subject, aren't you?

This deviation is entirely instinctive disorder , sometimes even observed on animals . Not having sex but proliferation is instinctive desire and is a scientific fact .

You can't say something is a scientific fact when the science demonstrably disagrees with you. More lies.

Homosexuality is not a scientific fact and purpose of homos is having sex .

So now you speak for us? I don't recall giving you permission to do that.

Western science often prefer to remain silent about this issue , they just say this is not a "disease" and they dont want to continue the phrase to say "this is a perversion" . Probably they are concerned about their own interests .

What interests would those be, pray? Like most people willing to blame their own factual shortcomings on a conspiracy, you're remarkably light on details, presumably to cover up the paper-thinness of your "argument."

Oh, and incidentally, how can you say that something is a scientific fact in one paragraph, and then in the next say that the actual scientists disagree with you because of a conspiracy? What data could you then have to make the first determination, if the actual scientists won't give you the conclusion you've come to? Let's be clear: you've exhibited far too much ignorance to be a scientist yourself, and I'm sure if I asked, as I do in situations like these, we'd find that you have no education in science at all. What, other than your prejudices, did you use to determine that homosexuality being unnatural is a "scientific fact"?

[Bad Wolf]

[WesOlsen]

Religion, in general, is homophobic, but Islam seems to take it to a whole new low.

Have to admit I'm not a fan of Pat.

Why not? He exposes Islam & the hypocrisy of neo-Leftist thugs.

He's a supporter of UKIP here in the UK, his political views lean to the extreme free-market right as a result. Despite agreeing with his sentiments regarding religion, his political/economic views are about as far away from mine as is possible. In fact i'd be tempted to describe him as a cunt.

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Hardly memorized. I don't even know what year it was removed from the the books because it doesn't matter: it wasn't a disease before then and it isn't diease after that.

Two flaws with that one. First off, "gender identity disorder" is totally not the same thing as homosexuality. Gender identity disorder is about gender identity; it's abou who you are, no about who you fuck. There are a lot of people who would have been determined to have gender identity disorder who identify as gay and a lot who identify as bisexual and others who identify as straight or even asexual.

However, the second problem is that even gender identity disorder has been taken off the books. Didn't Lilly even start a thread about that, back when I first joined the group?

"Normal?" Being gay is considered pretty normal. Being trans? Might not be entirely "normal," depending no how you define that word, but it's certainly not a disease that needs to be cured. In fact, every legitimate scientific journal over the past twenty+ years has found the same thing: the best treatment for transsexuals is to transition. Also, they've found that reparitive therapy (aka trying to "fix" themselves) does a lot more harm than good. And having talked to people who have done this, I'm forced to agree: curing yourself only makes the pain more painful.

Ok, first, you might want to learn a little about grammar before you say anything else, because that line was butchered like nothing I've ever seen.

But, second, no, homosexuals aren't usually atheists. Here, in Houston, one of the biggest supporters of the trans community is actually a pastor of a church. Another good friend of mine is very active in his church and he's gay. I had a few friends back in 2008 who I haven't talked to much since I came to Houston, they're both deeply religious and lesbians. I have another friend in Chicago who actually went to semenary and she's also a lesbian. And that's just my personal situation. There is an increasing number of gay friendly churches, lead, of course, by the Metropolitian Community Church. Many other already well established churches are beginning to accept homosexuality, and several more are on the fence.

I have never heard an atheist say "our religion is science." I smell a strawman here.

And it's hardly fair to call my thoughts rigid; I'm open to believing in a god, but first I need to be presented with legitimate evidence that such a god exists. So far, I haven't seen any. If you can provide me with proof that Allah exists, I'll gladly become a Muslim.

That is, quite possibly, the most closed minded thing I have seen on this forum.... and that's saying quite a bit.

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You're defending something that have no evidence about its naturalness. A man completely with male characteristics is behaving like a woman or just the opposite . This deviation is entirely instinctive disorder , sometimes even observed on animals . Not having sex but proliferation is instinctive desire and is a scientific fact . Homosexuality is not a scientific fact and purpose of homos is having sex . Western science often prefer to remain silent about this issue , they just say this is not a "disease" and they dont want to continue the phrase to say "this is a perversion" . Probably they are concerned about their own interests .

Damn you're a fucking ignorant moron.

[rexbeccarox]

Is she a fucking idiot? Everyone accepted the evidence I posted...wtf

Meh. It won't change her mind, anyway. I, for one, am proud to be a part of nineteen's ignore list.